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Newly Spooled Reel & Knots in the Line

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Hi,

 

I just got my reel spooled with braid, and I keep getting knots in the line when I cast out hard. This has happened to me in the past as well.  Can anyone share a technique that I can use to avoid having this issue in the future?

 

Thanks.

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Could be overfilled with the line, what line and reel surf rod? post a picture of line on the spool.

Edited by LB

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This should help.

Casting and retrieving can cause a problem with knots in your line that some call wind knots. Wind has nothing to do with the knots. The problem happens when we cast then flip the bail and reel in. Often the first loop of line that is reeled in will be loose and as we continue to reel more line is placed over that loose loop. Then when we cast again the loops of line coming off the spool will pull on the loose loop that will be sticking up. Eventually a loop coming off the spool will pull the loose loop off before it's turn and you will end up with a small area of line thats twisted together but small enough to pass through your guides. Then as you reel in and pressure is put on the line the twisted line will pull tight and the knot will form.

 

Easiest way to avoid this is when you make a cast you first close the bail with your hand and before you even touch the handle you pull your line tight so that loose loop doesn't form.

 

Here are a few pics showing a loop that is formed when you have loose line on the spool. the second pic is what happens when you cast and that loose loop comes off the spool before it's time. Reel in and that loose line will pull into a knot you won't ever get out. So cast, flip bail by hand and pull your line tight before you turn the handle.

 

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18 hours ago, LB said:

Could be overfilled with the line, what line and reel surf rod? post a picture of line on the spool.

It is an 8' Surf Mojo with 20# Power Pro.  Thank you.

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9 hours ago, DoorGunner said:

This should help.

Casting and retrieving can cause a problem with knots in your line that some call wind knots. Wind has nothing to do with the knots. The problem happens when we cast then flip the bail and reel in. Often the first loop of line that is reeled in will be loose and as we continue to reel more line is placed over that loose loop. Then when we cast again the loops of line coming off the spool will pull on the loose loop that will be sticking up. Eventually a loop coming off the spool will pull the loose loop off before it's turn and you will end up with a small area of line thats twisted together but small enough to pass through your guides. Then as you reel in and pressure is put on the line the twisted line will pull tight and the knot will form.

 

Easiest way to avoid this is when you make a cast you first close the bail with your hand and before you even touch the handle you pull your line tight so that loose loop doesn't form.

 

Here are a few pics showing a loop that is formed when you have loose line on the spool. the second pic is what happens when you cast and that loose loop comes off the spool before it's time. Reel in and that loose line will pull into a knot you won't ever get out. So cast, flip bail by hand and pull your line tight before you turn the handle.

 

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Thank you for that information.  I appreciate the time that you took to write that.

 

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95% of the time the loops are due to either overfilling or using automatic bail trip or both. Most reels are braid friendly at this point, but require different handling with braid vs. mono. 

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22 mins ago, bdowning said:

95% of the time the loops are due to either overfilling or using automatic bail trip or both. Most reels are braid friendly at this point, but require different handling with braid vs. mono. 

Thank you. I always manually trip the bail.  My dad taught me to never use the automatic bail trip a long time ago

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2 hours ago, beerspitnight said:

It is an 8' Surf Mojo with 20# Power Pro.  Thank you.

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That reel looks like a Penn battle, to me part of your problem is line is stacking more to the back there is a gap in the front if there are shims under the spool remove one that would move more line lay more to the front of the spool.

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4 mins ago, LB said:

That reel looks like a Penn battle, to me part of your problem is line is stacking more to the back there is a gap in the front if there are shims under the spool remove one that would move more line lay more to the front of the spool.

It is a Penn Battle 2.  I will do some research on the shims and then make adjustments.  Thank you.

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Baits shops put too much on for the money. I was in the same boat as you, thinking I was doing something wrong when in reality I was just overfilled. 

Edited by Sevendust111

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I spool my reels right to the edge. By flipping the bail by hand helps a lot but pulling the line tight before you turn the handle is the trick. If you don't that first loop will be loose and will come back to haunt you. 

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