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best fire-line to heavy fluorocarbon knot

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Tried an improved Alberto, not bad, but folded over 80 is fat and even with a risotto finish it's bumpy through the guides

 

Overall fireline is so slick, does not want to bite into anything 

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Tie a bimini twist on the main line. use a figure 8 on a bight or triple surgeon loop for the leader. loop to loop connection. very low profile for the guides

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What test Fireline?  Does it have to be Fireline?

 

Is this a casting or trolling application? You might need a loop-to-loop connection, easiest to do with hollow braid.

 

If you have to join light FL to heavy fluoro or mono (mono is usually softer, easier to knot) you can

1) Double the FL or other braid with a looooongg Bimini, 2) use a softer mono (Quattro Pro comes to mind, not Momoi Diamond) or softer fluoro, 3) try a blood knot.

 

Tying a doubled braid to a traditional knot, is a pain in the ass. Most of mine come out wrong, with too much load on one of the doubled lines. Prepare to swear a lot.

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1 min ago, ferret said:

Tried an improved Alberto, not bad, but folded over 80 is fat and even with a risotto finish it's bumpy through the guides

 

Overall fireline is so slick, does not want to bite into anything 

"Risotto finish?"  You pour hot chicken stock slowly over the knot?

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Just now, BrianBM said:

"Risotto finish?"  You pour hot chicken stock slowly over the knot?

And butter and stir really vigorously 

 

Spell check, rizzuto finish 

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I have been using the Slim Beauty for at least 5 years with no issues.  Depending on the size of the braid, I will sometimes double the braid.  Once mastered, it is even easy to tie in the dark.

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3 mins ago, BrianBM said:

What test Fireline?  Does it have to be Fireline?

 

Is this a casting or trolling application? You might need a loop-to-loop connection, easiest to do with hollow braid.

 

If you have to join light FL to heavy fluoro or mono (mono is usually softer, easier to knot) you can

1) Double the FL or other braid with a looooongg Bimini, 2) use a softer mono (Quattro Pro comes to mind, not Momoi Diamond) or softer fluoro, 3) try a blood knot.

 

Tying a doubled braid to a traditional knot, is a pain in the ass. Most of mine come out wrong, with too much load on one of the doubled lines. Prepare to swear a lot.

I had a big spool of 30# test which really breaks at like 70-80 when new.  Heard that fireline is the line of choice for deep water jiggers.  So Ive been rying to use it on a 10k saragosa as a bft jigging reel.  And every knot I've tried comes out sucky.  Like you said, lots of cursing.  

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7 mins ago, ferret said:

And butter and stir really vigorously 

 

Spell check, rizzuto finish 

Darn.  I was kind of enjoying the idea of pouring chicken stock over terminal tackle.

 

Now I have to go look up a Rizzuto finish. I don't think I've heard of him in a looonnnngg time.

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5 mins ago, Catch This said:

I have been using the Slim Beauty for at least 5 years with no issues.  Depending on the size of the braid, I will sometimes double the braid.  Once mastered, it is even easy to tie in the dark.

Fireline is not a braid, it is a bonded fiber that has zero stretch.

 

On a proper fg knot the braid will become stretched out and change colors and become translucent,  this dont happen with fireline

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Uni to uni knot solves problems like this for me. I only go up to 50lb with the fireline braid. I don't know if 80lb is harder to work with this knot. Could always do some at home tests with it for self discovery or a double uni.

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5 mins ago, flydog777 said:

Uni to uni knot solves problems like this for me. I only go up to 50lb with the fireline. I don't know if 80lb is harder to work with this knot. Could always do some at home tests with it for self discovery.

Which fireline are referring to? I am using the original which only went up to 30#

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