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Recommendation for "entry performance" salt water surf rod and reel.

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Been fishing along the SF Coast lately (Daly City, Pacifica, Half Moon, etc) and i'm targeting Striper and surf perch mainly, as well as been trying crab snaring for dungies.

 

I have an absolute cheap as chips combo rod and reel that i initially bought just snaring and it's worked okay but its SO HARD to use. The rod is a [Master Spectra 3215-BK 10' Spinning Rod](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nLo5ygUtMAAJ:https://thesportinggeeks.com/product/master-spectra-10-heavy-action-spinning-rod-free-usa-shipping-3215-bk/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us) and the reel is a [Shakespeare Alpha60](https://www.shakespeare-fishing.com/shakespeare-reels-spinning-reels/alpha-spinning-reel/1347909.html).

 

Today at the beach the reel seat came detached from the blank and the reel seat now spins around the blank. I drilled some shallow holes in the seat with a drill press and injected glue into it to set it back but i'm fed up with the rod and reel (the reel is even worse than the rod).

 

I'm in the SF Bay area and targeting striper and serf perch primarily but I also want to try for halibut occasionally and potentially salmon if i take it on a boat off coast. What length should I get to accomodate this variety? I was thinking 11' since i'm be on a beach mostly but would that be too long to take on a boat? And what about for crab snares as well? Would a slightly smaller rod be better for snares? Snares can get extremely heavy and I don't wanna break the rod if it's not meant for that. I'd rather get another cheap beefier rod (Daiwa Beefstick?) for snares if i can't safely accommodate it on this striper/perch/halibut rod.

 

As for the reel i was originally thinking of a Daiwa BG Saltwater spinning reel since i have a BG 2500 that i use for general lake/river fishing (largemouth, catfish, trout, shad). I've heard some both really great and really bad things about Penn Spinfisher and i'm considerng that as well. I can't find any clear recommendations on Shimano but i know they make great stuff.  I'm not sure what size reel to get, is there any reason not to get 8000? Is that way too overkill for this? Should I got 4000 or 4500 instead since i'll be slinging this from a beach for hours at a time?


Budget for Rod+Reel is ~200-250.

 


Next, can i get some tips for what tackle should I use for Striper and Surf Perch in the SF Bay coast line?

I heard something about Lucky Craft 110 and i've never used/seen them before, should I order one and try it out?

I primarily use sandcrab for bait with a size 8 baitholder, is this too small?

Which rigs are commonly used? So far i've used fish-finder rig and carolina rig, with a high-low used once but no luck on it. Primarily fish-finder has been lucky for me but i'm not sure.
What about weights? How much weight should i slap on each rid?

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you can focus on fishing gear now that dungeness season is closed.  (use the master combo if you still want to snare rock crabs until next season).

 

for your budget you probably want a salmon rod and 3000/4000 reel.  i was reading alot about needing a 4000 reel in case you target or hook-up a striper...  i've only fished surfperch like 4-5 times, so i have not used much line or reached the drag limit on my Penn Fierce 2 4000.  

 

i use #4 hooks alot but i just got some #6 to try. 

 

then after summer when you have more $ buy a new crab reel = all metal reel.  i like my 6000 since it weighs a little less, but 8000 gears and handle crank are just more robust.   my 6000 knob just developed a wobble and the gears are noisy when free-cranking (still silent and smoothe under load).  and in the penns, a 5000 would have the same gears and handle as a 6000, just essentially a smaller spool.  if you're just done with the master rod, then penn has some nice combos. and the master can be your backup  crab rod.

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Get yourself a Penn Battalion.  Daiwa BG will work great, 5000-6000 size will get the job done.    
 

I only throw conventional rods and reels for the surf, not sure if you need info on that.   

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Low retrieve but high torque go to LETHAL 60, only 20oz.....If you want something softer but highly recommended go with SEDONA 8000!, 22oz(or 6000-16oz with 30-40lb braid).....Fast ratio go to bg5000 (or old spf v or azores)

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Daiwa BG 5000 and pair it with the 9'3" Tsunami Airwave Elite from TackleDirect. I got this exact setup 2 months ago and love it. Was in a similar boat looking for a good budget setup. Rod $110, plus a free pair of pliers. Reel $95 from Walmart online, added a 2 year warranty for an extra $10. 

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