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How many more young black males need to be incarcerated?

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From what I've seen the last few days, many thousands, black and white. Ignorance knows no bounds. The only common thread seems to be SJW. i.e. dimms.

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18 mins ago, Rough said:

Racism is a systemic issue.

No actually its about the belief that one "race" is inherently superior (or inferior) to another due to genetic makeup

 

 

That other **** you wrote is just a shot at getting some money from guilt ridden (D) whitoes

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16 mins ago, The Zen Master said:

Is is  NOT just Black kids doing this. Don't be such a racist baiter.

Not at all.  The antifa thugs are seeding these protests

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24 mins ago, Rough said:

Racism is a systemic issue. It is about the legal system, about economic and social policies, and of course, about both major political parties. It is true that there are more sensitivities on the Democratic side, particularly when it comes to individuals, but not drastically better results in terms of policies.

 

how much money do you want and what are you gonna do with it?

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Systemic issue?  Seems to me that this particular event kicked off with a guy passing forged check and then resisting arrest.  
 

 

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6 mins ago, JimG said:

Not at all.  The antifa thugs are seeding these protests

They break the windows and the locals do the “shopping”.

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Something else: the cultural aspect. Consciously or not, people often behave in racist ways. Starting from the US South where confederate flags still abound, to that incident in NYC a few days ago. That woman was a self-described liberal, if I am not mistaken. Then, don't go far, just look honestly at this forum. Openly racist comments abound! Not simply racially insensitive, but plain racist! Let's start with that. No law with help if people's minds don't change. And when laws and economic policies improve, there needs to be true integration, not ghettification. This takes systematic investment and time. There is no magic wand here.

 

By the way, some geniuses should read the history of public housing projects. These were initially created for, and inhabited by, poor white people. The fact that they are now inhabited by minorities should tell you something. Here is a link for you to start:  https://socialworkhelper.com/2013/02/04/the-history-of-public-housing-started-over-70-years-ago-yet-still-evolving/

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Just now, Rough said:

. And when laws and economic policies improve, there needs to be true integration, not ghettification. This takes systematic investment and time. There is no magic wand here.

 

 

We've spent the last 60 years giving them every opportunity, every advantage to move up.

We've thrown trillions at the problem.

 

How much more do you want to fix it?

 

I'm happy to extend a hand up but I'm done with the handout.

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1 min ago, Rough said:

Something else: the cultural aspect. Consciously or not, people often behave in racist ways. Starting from the US South where confederate flags still abound, to that incident in NYC a few days ago. That woman was a self-described liberal, if I am not mistaken. Then, don't go far, just look honestly at this forum. Openly racist comments abound! Not simply racially insensitive, but plain racist! Let's start with that. No law with help if people's minds don't change. And when laws and economic policies improve, there needs to be true integration, not ghettification. This takes systematic investment and time. There is no magic wand here.

 

By the way, some geniuses should read the history of public housing projects. These were initially created for, and inhabited by, poor white people. The fact that they are now inhabited by minorities should tell you something. Here is a link for you to start:  https://socialworkhelper.com/2013/02/04/the-history-of-public-housing-started-over-70-years-ago-yet-still-evolving/

 No need to read about it.  I saw the destruction of projects new and old by minorities in real-time. 

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21 mins ago, Rough said:

Something else: the cultural aspect. Consciously or not, people often behave in racist ways. Starting from the US South where confederate flags still abound, to that incident in NYC a few days ago. That woman was a self-described liberal, if I am not mistaken. Then, don't go far, just look honestly at this forum. Openly racist comments abound! Not simply racially insensitive, but plain racist! Let's start with that. No law with help if people's minds don't change. And when laws and economic policies improve, there needs to be true integration, not ghettification. This takes systematic investment and time. There is no magic wand here.

 

By the way, some geniuses should read the history of public housing projects. These were initially created for, and inhabited by, poor white people. The fact that they are now inhabited by minorities should tell you something. Here is a link for you to start:  https://socialworkhelper.com/2013/02/04/the-history-of-public-housing-started-over-70-years-ago-yet-still-evolving/

what would you suggest are some of the responsibilities of minorities in all this ?

 

2 sides to every story.....or that's the theory, correct ?  

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I agree that racism IS systematic - it has been systematic for democrats since 1860 FFS.

Black Lives Matter and ANTIFA are democrat fronts for fomenting violence and destruction in their effort to intimate voters into voting for democrat candidates.

The Mafia does the same thing.

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2 hours ago, pakalolo said:

don't be a criminal and you won't get locked up. Next question

^^^This. This is what the moron left won't addmit . You do the crime you do the time. Good Black Americans help the U.S.A., bad unamerican black hate the U.S.A.. Don't get me wrong ,there are more communist anti American white trash :manpig::manpig: than blacks that hate America. These moron's on the left, there the real haters. Look at the OP.

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2 hours ago, Gamakatsu said:

How many more do you figure we need to put in jail to get this thing fixed?

None. Jail is not the issue. Their mere existence is. The sooner we separate ourselves from them (and all the other paper Americans) the sooner we can get back on track to building civilization again. 

 

They go their way, we go our way, everybody wins. No more raping and looting for us, no more raysis bogieman for them. 

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"True integration" does not increase assimilation.Moving section 8 folks to the burbs,crime and quality of life issues moved to the burbs too.

 

Obama’s last act is to force suburbs to be less white and less wealthy
By Paul Sperry
Hillary’s rumored running mate, Housing Secretary Julian Castro, is cooking up a scheme to reallocate funding for Section 8 housing to punish suburbs for being too white and too wealthy.
The scheme involves super-sizing vouchers to help urban poor afford higher rents in pricey areas, such as Westchester County, while assigning them government real estate agents called “mobility counselors” to secure housing in the exurbs.
Castro plans to launch the Section 8 reboot this fall, even though a similar program tested a few years ago in Dallas has been blamed for shifting violent crime to affluent neighborhoods.
It’s all part of a grand scheme to forcibly desegregate inner cities and integrate the outer suburbs.
Anticipating NIMBY resistance, Castro last month threatened to sue suburban landlords for discrimination if they refuse even Section 8 tenants with criminal records. And last year, he implemented a powerful new regulation — “Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing” — that pressures all suburban counties taking federal grant money to change local zoning laws to build more low-income housing (landlords of such properties are required to accept Section 8 vouchers).
Castro is expected to finalize the new regulation, known as “Small-Area Fair Market Rents” (SAFMR), this October, in the last days of the Obama presidency.
It will set voucher rent limits by ZIP code rather than metro area, the current formula, which makes payments relatively small. For example, the fair market rent for a one-bedroom in New York City is about $1,250, which wouldn’t cover rentals in leafy areas of Westchester County, such as Mamaroneck, where Castro and his social engineers seek to aggressively resettle Section 8 tenants.
 [The Section 8 reboot] is all part of a grand scheme to forcibly desegregate inner cities and integrate the outer suburbs.
In expensive ZIP codes, Castro’s plan — which requires no congressional approval — would more than double the standard subsidy, while also covering utilities. At the same time, he intends to reduce subsidies for those who choose to stay in housing in poor urban areas, such as Brooklyn. So Section 8 tenants won’t just be pulled to the suburbs, they’ll be pushed there.
“We want to use our housing-choice vouchers to ensure that we don’t have a concentration of poverty and the aggregation of racial minorities in one part of town, the poor part of town,” the HUD chief said recently, adding that he’s trying to undo the “result of discriminatory policies and practices in the past, and sometimes even now.”
A draft of the new HUD rule anticipates more than 350,000 Section 8 voucher holders will initially be resettled under the SAFMR program. Under Obama, the total number of voucher households has grown to more than 2.2 million.
The document argues that larger vouchers will allow poor urban families to “move into areas that potentially have better access to jobs, transportation, services and educational opportunities.” In other words, offering them more money to move to more expensive neighborhoods will improve their situation.
But HUD’s own studies show the theory doesn’t match reality.

President Bill Clinton started a similar program in 1994 called “Moving to Opportunity Initiative,” which moved thousands of mostly African-American families from government projects to higher-quality homes in safer and less racially segregated neighborhoods in several counties across the country.
The 15-year experiment bombed.
A 2011 study sponsored by HUD found that adults using more generous Section 8 vouchers did not get better jobs or get off welfare. In fact, more went on food stamps. And their children did not do better in their new schools.
Worse, crime simply followed them to their safer neighborhoods, ruining the quality of life for existing residents.
“Males … were arrested more often than those in the control group, primarily for property crimes,” the study found.
Dubuque, Iowa, for example, received an influx of voucher holders from projects in Chicago — and it’s had a problem with crime ever since. A recent study linked Dubuque’s crime wave directly to Section 8 housing.
Of course, even when reality mugs leftists, they never scrap their social theories. They just double down.
The problem, they rationalized, was that the relocation wasn’t aggressive enough. They concluded they could get the desired results if they placed urban poor in even more affluent areas.
HUD recently tested this new theory in Dallas with disastrous results.
Starting in 2012, the agency sweetened Section 8 voucher payments, and pointed inner-city recipients to the far-flung counties surrounding Dallas. As government-subsidized rentals spread in all areas of the Metroplex (163 ZIP codes vs. 129 ZIP codes), so did crime.
The US Department of Housing and Urban Development used Dallas as a test — and the city is now experiencing much more violence.Getty Images
Now Dallas has one of the highest murder rates in the nation, and recently had to call in state troopers to help police control it. For the first time, violent crime has shifted to the tony bedroom communities north of the city. Three suburbs that have seen the most Section 8 transfers — Frisco, Plano and McKinney — have suffered unprecedented spikes in rapes, assaults and break-ins, including home invasions.
Although HUD’s “demonstration project” may have improved the lives of some who moved, it’s ended up harming the lives of many of their new neighbors. And now Castro wants to roll it out nationwide. Soon he will give Section 8 recipients money to afford rent wherever they choose — and if they don’t want to move, he’ll make them an offer they can’t refuse.
Ironically, Hillary’s own hometown of Chappaqua is fighting Section 8 housing because of links to drugs and crime and other problems.
This is a big policy shift that will have broad implications, affecting everything from crime to property values. And it could even impact the presidential election, especially if Castro joins Hillary on the Democratic ticket.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Bigdeal said:

SOME DAYS, THE SUPPLY OF AVAILABLE CURSE WORDS IS INSUFFICIENT TO MEET MY DEMANDS....

I'm looting that phrase for future use.... Thank you sir.:clap:

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