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Is it me or do surf bag makers go in and out like pizza joints? Looking for a tin specific pouch. 

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You are correct and as someone that hand stitched dozens of surf bags I feel I am qualified to give my opinion as to why. There seems to be an unbalanced opinion as to value placed upon hand made goods. People seem to have no problem shelling out $100 for a custom plug but balk at paying $300 - $500 for a quality handmade bag, but why? I believe that a direct value, either real or imagined, can be directly connected between a quality handmade plug and a large bass. On the other hand the surfbag is thought of nothing more than a method in  which to transport the selection of lures and will never will you see a plugbag hanging from a fish's mouth like you can with a plug. In actuality a well designed and well constructed plugbag increases the chances of success by making the selection and implementation of anything carried inside a seamless transition which enhances and increases the value what of actually carried inside the bag itself..There is a disproportionate value placed on the bag and what is being carried inside of it. Makers eventually realize this and figure out far easier ways to generate extra revenue.. People that generally do something for the eventual goal of turning a profit will find a more profitable way in which to do so. Likely why there are many dozens of plugmakers while there are only a handful of plugbag makers. Look and you shall see.

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I am positive that one can build their own bag from the ground up the way they want.

just go to a serious fabric shop and buy the materials and then buy a leather sewing kit.

it can't be so hard to do.

one could even use another type of bag for the purpose and customize it for your tasks.

not seeing much of this  at all around here that's why I am posting this.

HH

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7 mins ago, Heavy Hooksetter said:

I am positive that one can build their own bag from the ground up the way they want.

just go to a serious fabric shop and buy the materials and then buy a leather sewing kit.

it can't be so hard to do.

one could even use another type of bag for the purpose and customize it for your tasks.

not seeing much of this  at all around here that's why I am posting this.

HH

Don’t underestimate the difficulty in a well made product. I know it takes many hours for Jamie to stitch a Flatlander after everything is cut to the templates. 

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2 hours ago, ged said:

Don’t underestimate the difficulty in a well made product. I know it takes many hours for Jamie to stitch a Flatlander after everything is cut to the templates. 

I do not.

I say make it the way you want.

it can be done and easier than one thinks.

if you do it custom and not rush it will be solid.

HH

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21 hours ago, SC said:

You are correct and as someone that hand stitched dozens of surf bags I feel I am qualified to give my opinion as to why. There seems to be an unbalanced opinion as to value placed upon hand made goods. People seem to have no problem shelling out $100 for a custom plug but balk at paying $300 - $500 for a quality handmade bag, but why? I believe that a direct value, either real or imagined, can be directly connected between a quality handmade plug and a large bass. On the other hand the surfbag is thought of nothing more than a method in  which to transport the selection of lures and will never will you see a plugbag hanging from a fish's mouth like you can with a plug. In actuality a well designed and well constructed plugbag increases the chances of success by making the selection and implementation of anything carried inside a seamless transition which enhances and increases the value what of actually carried inside the bag itself..There is a disproportionate value placed on the bag and what is being carried inside of it. Makers eventually realize this and figure out far easier ways to generate extra revenue.. People that generally do something for the eventual goal of turning a profit will find a more profitable way in which to do so. Likely why there are many dozens of plugmakers while there are only a handful of plugbag makers. Look and you shall see.

I'm not knocking a hand made bag, If i lived as close to the salt as i do my local lake a quality handmade bag that lasts a lifetime makes sense. But for me my Bronco Bag has served me well for my trips to surf. I do wish it was made of better material but I take my time not to snag hooks and keep it clean so its in great shape. 

 

My comment about bag makers going out of business was just an observation. I stretched the plastic pockets on my Hunter leader wallet trying to open them. Nothing to crazy its still usable but if wanted to have it repaired i couldn't.

 

I may take a shot at making my own bag down the road. 

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I made my own.  I used my roommate's sewing machine and 2 layers of 7 oz sail cloth.  I almost broke her machine...several times.  The bags turned out pretty good though.  I put my own spin on them to help them stay rigid.  I spent about $120 total on material from sailrite, home depot, and the fabric store.  I used standard upholstery thread.  Have 2 years on them and they're still going strong.  Last pic shows gear up 3 tube for comparison.0522181035.jpg.307c3117ed1e45efe36256d377f81fe3.jpg0522181026.jpg.1c049623ff6c8cf942e6dc1aef127d81.jpg0521181022a.jpg.db05130bb8acb3877a7573ad380f7123.jpg0527180918.jpg.4df188aa8e5ab17976745db383856828.jpg0527180047a.jpg.7217f476f087d3e97920f0f4e4e3081c.jpg0527180919.jpg.0825ef4eca8905beef598ad757d82567.jpg0527180902-1.jpg.6ed479730b4365aa00b81c44da33b863.jpg

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58 mins ago, gorkmonster said:

I made my own.  I used my roommate's sewing machine and 2 layers of 7 oz sail cloth.  I almost broke her machine...several times.  The bags turned out pretty good though.  I put my own spin on them to help them stay rigid.  I spent about $120 total on material from sailrite, home depot, and the fabric store.  I used standard upholstery thread.  Have 2 years on them and they're still going strong.  Last pic shows gear up 3 tube for comparison.0522181035.jpg.307c3117ed1e45efe36256d377f81fe3.jpg0522181026.jpg.1c049623ff6c8cf942e6dc1aef127d81.jpg0521181022a.jpg.db05130bb8acb3877a7573ad380f7123.jpg0527180918.jpg.4df188aa8e5ab17976745db383856828.jpg0527180047a.jpg.7217f476f087d3e97920f0f4e4e3081c.jpg0527180919.jpg.0825ef4eca8905beef598ad757d82567.jpg0527180902-1.jpg.6ed479730b4365aa00b81c44da33b863.jpg

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I could definitely see a standard sowing machine having issues with sail material.

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Lets say this....a guy that can afford a hobby like surfcasting and buy $1000 combos and $400 bags and fill it with $500 in plugs... makes a decent salary...let alone have the "free time" to fish....maybe $200-$400 a day or there abouts....so if it takes an artisan 2 or 3 days of straight labor to make a bag for you how is it not justified that he should be paid a similar wage ...not to mention covering raw materials and overhead...you get what u pay for...a $90 aquaskins will shred to pieces in a year...but a commando will look fresh 10 years later

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5 hours ago, gorkmonster said:

I made my own.  I used my roommate's sewing machine and 2 layers of 7 oz sail cloth.  I almost broke her machine...several times.  The bags turned out pretty good though.  I put my own spin on them to help them stay rigid.  I spent about $120 total on material from sailrite, home depot, and the fabric store.  I used standard upholstery thread.  Have 2 years on them and they're still going strong.  Last pic shows gear up 3 tube for comparison.0522181035.jpg.307c3117ed1e45efe36256d377f81fe3.jpg0522181026.jpg.1c049623ff6c8cf942e6dc1aef127d81.jpg0521181022a.jpg.db05130bb8acb3877a7573ad380f7123.jpg0527180918.jpg.4df188aa8e5ab17976745db383856828.jpg0527180047a.jpg.7217f476f087d3e97920f0f4e4e3081c.jpg0527180919.jpg.0825ef4eca8905beef598ad757d82567.jpg0527180902-1.jpg.6ed479730b4365aa00b81c44da33b863.jpg

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that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

great job.

HH

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6 hours ago, gorkmonster said:

I made my own.  I used my roommate's sewing machine and 2 layers of 7 oz sail cloth.  I almost broke her machine...several times.  The bags turned out pretty good though.  I put my own spin on them to help them stay rigid.  I spent about $120 total on material from sailrite, home depot, and the fabric store.  I used standard upholstery thread.  Have 2 years on them and they're still going strong.  Last pic shows gear up 3 tube for comparison.0522181035.jpg.307c3117ed1e45efe36256d377f81fe3.jpg0522181026.jpg.1c049623ff6c8cf942e6dc1aef127d81.jpg0521181022a.jpg.db05130bb8acb3877a7573ad380f7123.jpg0527180918.jpg.4df188aa8e5ab17976745db383856828.jpg0527180047a.jpg.7217f476f087d3e97920f0f4e4e3081c.jpg0527180919.jpg.0825ef4eca8905beef598ad757d82567.jpg0527180902-1.jpg.6ed479730b4365aa00b81c44da33b863.jpg

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Looks very nice. How many hours did it take to design and fabricate the bags?

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Steve hit the nail on the head. Guys, start out thinking they can generate a second income and probably realize there's an easier way to make money. Its alot of hours to  just put 1 bag together. Not to mention an industrial machine and binder aren't cheap.

Jamie make's great looking bags and I hope he's able to continue to make a go of it. 

Custom bags are awesome, if you have the funds, and are a serious surfcaster. I'll bet my nephew will inherit commando bag.. it wears like iron.

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16 hours ago, ged said:

Looks very nice. How many hours did it take to design and fabricate the bags?

Thanks! I'd say it was about 24 hrs in labor from the initial design phase to completion.  That said, if I was going to be making more, a real industrial machine would cut the time down considerably. I spent a good chunk of time playing around with the sewing machine, adjusting settings, and undoing thread jams.

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