The Riddler

I am hoping New York and New Jersey Kayak Anglers....

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...are seeing good Bass right now because up here in Massachusetts  for most kayak anglers it's way behind from what we usually see. 

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Its been an awesome spring for bass.  Still catching them, but not as consistently as earlier in the spring.  We have not seen the gator blues yet.  They usually arrive numbers around mother's day, but not this year.

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It's been about par for the course up in NH. Low to mid-20" fish on average (:cry:) with reports of the odd keeper mixed in. 

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The sound is almost barren compared to a few years ago. Some 36" fish around but few. The schools of sub legal are much more sparse.

 Same goes for the blues in the normal areas they usually congregate.

 

Used to be millions of buffalo across the US too. 

 

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Broke in the new compass this memorial day, marked a lot of big fish but the schoolies were just quicker on the bite. Tube N Worm and SP Minnows.

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Its going to be some lean years coming up.  Schoolies no problem up and down the coast. Which looks great for the future. Today was acres of 20" class. Theres a chance the smaller will beat out the larger but today I had the big boat out standing on the bow looking after hooking .and those larger pretty much absent. No escorts, no larger swimming by. 

 

The large will all find us at various times but this is a complete turnaround from what we had in the 90's to see some issues in 2013.....2017 peaked for most and it appears to be sinking fast. Sadly. 

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12 hours ago, The Riddler said:

...are seeing good Bass right now because up here in Massachusetts  for most kayak anglers it's way behind from what we usually see. 

Yeah, lots of big girls around in NJ still. We're still getting big fish regularly in areas that didn't didn't produce this late the past few years. And I think we're still waiting on the chesapeake fish to show in any numbers.  

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11 hours ago, The Riddler said:

Its going to be some lean years coming up.  Schoolies no problem up and down the coast. Which looks great for the future. Today was acres of 20" class. Theres a chance the smaller will beat out the larger but today I had the big boat out standing on the bow looking after hooking .and those larger pretty much absent. No escorts, no larger swimming by. 

 

The large will all find us at various times but this is a complete turnaround from what we had in the 90's to see some issues in 2013.....2017 peaked for most and it appears to be sinking fast. Sadly. 

New England has gotten the lion’s share of the big bass for several years now. I’ve watched that shift from somewhere around 2011 on up. Your words are an indicator of yet another shift……is the New England gold mine finally running out or will we find them somewhere else this season? ... only time will tell.

 

The better bass (for the most part) here on L.I seem to be mostly taking deeper water routes in & out with the seasons, inshore areas can be devoid of those fish (a lot of the time) but bait is everywhere, bait is all over in the deeper water as well, too much bait? Is that why they don’t  come in shore as they did?  Maybe…. we find less & less big fish residents inshore every year between the migration periods then we did as little as 5 – 7 yrs ago.

 

No doubt the numbers are down, there are fish to be had but they're not extending their range as they did, we find select geographic areas with a good concentration of better bass with other areas getting nothing.... from the 90's to mid 2000's that big bass range was extended everywhere....

 

You hit the nail on the head, from time to time you find those good fish but not like it used to be though, pattern & tide fishing is more hit or miss nowadays with being in the right place at the right time more the norm then knowing your fish will be at spot “x” at tide stage “y” every time… sucks running all over the place trying to find them…

 

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I agree on the bait situation.  Here in Mass Bay  90's through 2016 was mostly Bass in the Rocks, scrounging.  Eating crabs and Lobsters. It made Bass fishing easy, especially for the kayak angler. Macks would come and go, Pogies/Bunker would have a spring showing and only a hand full of Falls They would come in thick. Then there was 6" sea herring from 2011-2015. Those were the best plug years.....but through all that there was still Bass to be found in the rocks. 
 

Now the Mackerel Don't leave, small sea herring drives the feeds currently in Mass Bay and beyond. Last year and the year previous there was an incredible amount of Pogies/Bunker.  Whales were off my beachfront....and the Bass fishing last year for larger was tough to come by.  Small concentrated schools of big fish. Some anglers got resident bass, I didn't last year. 

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This also explains a lot. The more Westerly, NE wind we get right now will keep the water temps down. If you have tons of bait and cool water, really no reason to move Striped Bass.  
 

We need Easterly for a week and get that Orange up into Southern New Jersey.  That will speed things up.

 

 

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Back side of Barnegat Inlet area has been slow.  4 trips and 25+ miles in we had 2 shorts but no blues.  There are blues being caught but a very scattered pick.  I'm new to the kayak but a few seasoned vet said it's low water temps.  That could be true because in clear water around our sod banks we've seen larger bass follow our plugs non-aggressively without striking.  I'm contributing that to lack of larger bait, but is it due to the water temps??  The exception to no larger bait is blowfish......on 3 occasions now we've seen Osprey pluck blowfish out of the water.  Been fishing this area for 40+ years but I have no clue what blowfish add to the Striped Bass equation because we don't see a lot of them.       

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This kinda sucks lol. I'm going back to NY at the end of this month from Mass. I feel like just as the big ones get here to MA, I'll be going to NY where they just left...

I haven't caught a keeper here in MA this season... Biggest probably 25''. 

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You probably have time for the new moon in June.   

Don't sleep on that.....literally.

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18 hours ago, kayaknshore said:

This kinda sucks lol. I'm going back to NY at the end of this month from Mass. I feel like just as the big ones get here to MA, I'll be going to NY where they just left...

I haven't caught a keeper here in MA this season... Biggest probably 25''. 

Fall makes up for the summer striper lull in NY. Starting mid Sept, out east, LIS or the Hudson are safe bets.

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