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Native Tribes fishermen are being Harrased

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Nice new video today. Threatening  to shoot people  touching there lobster traps, after some of them got caught pulling others traps last year. Probably  lobsters for sale on FB soon....stay classy Wamp Nation

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1 hour ago, TonyO said:

.... Threatening  to shoot people  touching there lobster traps,...

 

……...and he said he can legally do that.    :dismay:  

 

Also, sort of dopey to show the world where he puts his traps

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3 hours ago, Joe G said:

 

……...and he said he can legally do that.    :dismay:  

 

Also, sort of dopey to show the world where he puts his traps

I’m wondering if anyone can provide a regulatory citation on that “legally shoot you” business.

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So he's threatening to bring a gun onto federal property where firearms are not permitted, to murderer people who touch his traps after he revealed the location of said traps.....seems like a class act and a real brainiac  to boot......

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Make them equal in law. These rights is bunch of bs now days.

Give them ownership of those reservations, by dividing and all other things make the same for them.

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Another item of interest may be answered if congress does not in fact recognize them as a tribe , which is now questionable. what happens then 

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1 hour ago, Angler #1 said:

Another item of interest may be answered if congress does not in fact recognize them as a tribe , which is now questionable. what happens then 

they're a fed recognized Tribe, that's not going to change... the legislation in front of congress has to do with their casino and their land in trust application... 

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46 mins ago, jettyjockey18 said:

they're a fed recognized Tribe, that's not going to change... the legislation in front of congress has to do with their casino and their land in trust application... 

Jetty Jockey that is not my understanding. In order to build a casino on land they need to be recognized as a local tribe , which congress has of yet voted for. 

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19 hours ago, TonyO said:

Nice new video today. Threatening  to shoot people  touching there lobster traps, after some of them got caught pulling others traps last year. Probably  lobsters for sale on FB soon....stay classy Wamp Nation

Did anyone look closely at that video? Their traps were out of the water because they didn't have enough line to even reach the water at low tide.  The tied their lines to rocks right at the edge of the service rd. At low tide, all their traps were 5' out of water.  They must have set those traps at high tide. They're not even wearing waders.  :laugh:

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4 mins ago, bob_G said:

Did anyone look closely at that video? ........ They must have set those traps at high tide.  :laugh:

 

I noticed that as well. 

 

Me thinks, he did not set those traps incorrectly.  The guy knows how to catch lobsters and would not do a newbie thing like that.

 

Rather, I think he purposely staged this video in such a manner that would portray him as a victim. 

 

But in the end,  he was hung by his own petard.   :laugh:

 

Just my thoughts.

 

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1 hour ago, Angler #1 said:

Jetty Jockey that is not my understanding. In order to build a casino on land they need to be recognized as a local tribe , which congress has of yet voted for. 

Angler, i live one mile from the proposed casino site...its diagonally across the street from my kids former elementary school...unfortunately, I know way more about the Wampanoag tribe and their history then I want to...

the Wamps received Fed recognition as a tribe in 2007...in order to have the Feds take "land in trust" for an indian reservation, the tribe needed to be Federally recognized prior to the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934...this is the result of a SCOTUS ruling called the Carcieri Decision issued in 2009...

the Wamps and the Bureau of Indian Affairs tried to ram through their approval for land in trust of the site in Taunton for their casino...a local neighborhood group and a very good lawyer from Hale and Door (i believe) sued the land in trust ruling on the grounds that the Wamps were not federally recognized prior to 1934...to the surprise of the Feds and the Wamps, the Fed Judge who reviewed the lawsuit agreed with the plaintiffs and sent the case back to the BIA to "try again"...they couldn't come up with a work around, and the land in trust was DOA...

since then, Senator Markey and the rest of the Mass Congressman introduced legislation that would reword the Indian Reorg Act and essentially override Carcieri, thus allowing the Feds to take the casino site as land in trust for the Wamp reservation...there has been attempts at this several times throughout the years but there's been no political support and they've never made it out of committee...hopefully that trend continues because if this legislation does get approved it will open up a whole can of worms with tribes throughout the country under similar Fed recognition circumstances...

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8 hours ago, R.R. Bridge Fisher said:

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That looks real sustainable. Killing those schoolies with the stocks the way they are is kinda like shooting at the last herd of bison......

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