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23 hours ago, FishRatz said:

Its typical in this thread. 

 

Logic is applied regarding science and the proper way to handle the pandemic and public emergency.

Constitutional defenders come out saying its all wrong, our rights being violated, with criticism towards all Gov management.

Arguments ensue over petty indifference.

Joke phase begins

Repeat

 

..and in just 9 days, with almost 23,000 views...and over 700 replies.....is the fastest spreading SOL topic almost as bad as the virus.

All for the simple precaution to wear a mask during a 100 year pandemic....yea, we are not on the same page in the good ol USA.

 

Modify my thread progression:

 

Logic is applied regarding science and the proper way to handle the pandemic and public emergency.

Constitutional defenders come out saying its all wrong, our rights being violated, with criticism towards all Gov management.

Arguments ensue over petty indifference.

SIM comes in and begins a total meltdown of ranting posts

Arguments to try to reason with SIM ensue

Joke phase begins

SIM continues with the total meltdown of ranting posts

Joke phase turns to SIM

Repeat

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Steve in Mass said:

Man shot dead in Roxbury; Boston police commissioner implores judges to keep ‘career criminals’ locked up during coronavirus crisis


Gross: ‘This is a pandemic we need to pull together’

 

Boston police Commissioner William Gross is again calling on judges to keep “career criminals” locked up during the pandemic following another shooting in the city. (Herald file photo.)


By JOE DWINELL |  and HILLARY CHABOT | Boston Herald


PUBLISHED: May 4, 2020 at 8:34 a.m. | UPDATED: May 4, 2020 at 7:19 p.m.


Police Commissioner William Gross is urging judges to keep “career criminals” locked up during the pandemic after three men were shot — one fatally — late Sunday night in Roxbury.

 

Gross said officers heard gunshots and neighbors called 911 when gunfire broke out on Kensington Park in Roxbury at 10:38 p.m.

 

Three men were found shot at the scene and were transported to an area hospital where one later died, Gross said. The survivors are said to be facing “life-threatening” injuries.

 

The case remains open and the commissioner is asking for the public’s help to solve the crime.

 
 

“Folks, we say it time and time and time again, this shouldn’t be tolerated in our neighborhoods,” Gross told reporters at the scene.




“This is a pandemic; we need to pull together — everybody has to be held accountable,” Gross said. “In the past two months, we’ve had career criminals released.”

 

Mayor Martin Walsh condemned the violence and supported Gross agreeing some of those let go should have stayed behind bars.

 

“Some of these folks have been released from prison, some have been released on bail when in fact they should have been held,” Walsh said Monday.

 

“The commissioner has a right to be frustrated,” Walsh added. “A lot of work as been done in the city to bring down the violence in our city and bring down the shootings in our city.”

 

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Coronavirus in Massachusetts: Effects of inmate release seen in uptick of violence

 

 


By BOSTON HERALD EDITORIAL STAFF |


PUBLISHED: May 6, 2020 at 5:20 a.m. | UPDATED: May 6, 2020 at 7:40 a.m.


Proponents of “compassionate release” for inmates due to the coronavirus pandemic put criminals before community — and now the community is paying the price.

 

It wasn’t as if the dangers weren’t made apparent.

 

The sheriffs of all 14 Massachusetts counties pushed back when criminal defense groups recently sued for the release of detainees.

 

“It just makes no sense and it’s pretty obvious this is to drive a political agenda,” Bristol County Sheriff Thomas Hodgson said.

 
But the move wasn’t about sense, it was about so-called compassion — for criminals — disregarding the fact that the coronavirus was spreading outside of prison facilities as well as in, rendering the point for prisoner safety fairly moot, but scoring a point for progressive virtue-signalling.

 

And so many lucky cons were dealt get out of jail cards and returned to the community, and their former ways of life.

 

The soundtrack to this debacle is the increased gunplay on the streets of Boston.

 

After three men were shot, one fatally, Sunday night in Roxbury, Police Commissioner William Gross called out the effect the release fiasco is having on the city.

 

“This is a pandemic; we need to pull together — everybody has to be held accountable,” Gross said. “In the past two months, we’ve had career criminals released.”


As the Boston Herald reported, Mayor Martin Walsh agreed with Gross that some of those let go should have stayed behind bars.

 

“Some of these folks have been released from prison, some have been released on bail when in fact they should have been held,” Walsh said.

 

“The commissioner has a right to be frustrated,” Walsh added. “A lot of work as been done in the city to bring down the violence in our city and bring down the shootings in our city.”

 

The police, mayor’s office and community groups have done yeoman’s work in reducing violent crime in the city. Last year, there were 38 homicides in Boston, down from 56 in 2018. Crime overall was down 5% — which police department spokesman Sgt. John Boyle attributed to a “focus on community policing.”

 

“We have been working in partnership with our communities and building neighborhoods without fear and reducing crime,” Boyle said.

 

A big part of crime reduction is arresting wrongdoers and putting them in jail for their crimes. But now, thanks to progressive agendas that give community well being short shrift, many of those criminals are back on the streets. Our streets.

 

What is compassionate about letting violence flare up in Boston? Of citizens hearing gunfire outside their homes or on their streets, and possibly being victims themselves? Where is the compassion for those murdered by released felons?

 

“Folks, we say it time and time and time again, this shouldn’t be tolerated in our neighborhoods,” Gross told reporters at the scene.

 

While Gross was asking for the public’s help to solve Sunday’s crime, all those who lobbied for criminals to be decarcerated should heed that message as well.

 

Crime, especially violent crime, shouldn’t be tolerated in our neighborhoods — but the neighborhoods had no say in the matter when social justice warriors sued to release criminals into their midst.

That should not have been tolerated.

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Suffolk County District Attorney Rachael Rollins, who has asked for nonviolent offenders to be released amid the outbreak, said that officials have seen an uptick in gun violence.

 

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As to actual statistics, well, seems they are pretty well hidden.....and you were talking about freedom of speech and freedom of the press?  :squid:

 

Steve, 

There are shootings in Roxbury almost every weekend of the year. Closing gun shops for a few weeks did not cause this. Gang violence did. 

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We drove all around Worcester yesterday. Given the amount of construction going on in relation to the new Red Sox facility, there are police details everywhere. We only saw one police officer wearing a face mask. People were walking on crosswalks and sidewalks within mere feet of police officers none of whom were wearing masks.  Police nor pedestrians.  If there's a facemask law then nobody in Worcester is aware of it.

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31 mins ago, FishRatz said:

Modify my thread progression:

 

Logic is applied regarding science and the proper way to handle the pandemic and public emergency.

Constitutional defenders come out saying its all wrong, our rights being violated, with criticism towards all Gov management.

Arguments ensue over petty indifference.

SIM comes in and begins a total meltdown of ranting posts

Arguments to try to reason with SIM ensue

Joke phase begins

SIM continues with the total meltdown of ranting posts

Joke phase turns to SIM

Repeat

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is anyone even reading his posts anymore? I'm looking at it like I do when I get out of a train station and a drunk homeless guy is laying on the ground, impeding foot traffic,& shouting about something or other. I am stepping over them and getting past the problem as quick as possible so I can continue with progress. I can't donate my attention to people who are offering no help, solutions, or even some rational perspective. A pure waste of time getting involved with those dwelling on the irrelevant and nonconstructive. As much as I got plenty of time, I aint got time for that! 

 

We need to discuss the best ways going forward, not dwell on the made up minutia from the lunatic fringe. Solve a medical problem and protect the economy. It is a delicate balance and difficult process, lets just focus on recovery and not bicker about politics!

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Addressing a few things in passing ....  Di Blasio (not an official in Massachusetts, AFAIK) hasn't shut anything. He's a ranter, and inevitably backs down an hour after his rants. San Antonio's ban on "kung flu," or whatever the phrase was, is silly and unconstitutional. The city will lose any civil suit brought after an arrest for using the phrase. I had not known that SA has such a politically correct City Council, but it's up to the citizens to address it, if they care.

 

The uptick in gun violence mentioned is interesting, but no one, save SiM, is claiming that it would have been prevented if gun stores had remained open.

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15 hours ago, Lakertaker said:

Mom wife ( a nurse ) avoided lay off today. Unfortunately many others were not as fortunate. Hospital still in major trouble. Governor can’t wait much longer to get to so called phase one. Anybody who can read can look at the data and see the so called surge never happened.  She actually had some patients today. A broken leg, appendix, a severe wrist sprain, stroke, and two flu patients who tested negative for covid. One was in rough shape. In the past month she has dealt with 4 times the flu patients then covid patients a fact you won’t see in the news. This country needs to admit they made a mistake on false data, but acted with the citizens in mind and move on and do so quickly. 

The hospital in question must be unique in the Northeastern United States. The "so called surge never happened?"  Really?

Bodies in reefer trucks in most NY hospitals. ERs overwhelmed. Elective surgeries cancelled. NY crematoria working 24/7.

 

In what divinely spared location is your wife's hospital located?

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1 hour ago, Steve in Mass said:

What business is that of yours? :squid:

 

But if you must know, Facilities Technology Associate.

 

But you also need to realize that I hold a BS in Chemical Engineering and for over 18 years was a chemical plant Production Manger and Plant Engineering manager, and spent another 5 years doing Manufacturing Engineering Consulting. as such I am VERY well versed in Chemical, Electrical, Mechanical, and Computer Engineering, as well a extremely talented in software applications.

 

I have designed, built and installed many unique manufacturing systems, and have specified, researched, purchased and commissioned many, many various industrial machines.

 

And also have vast experience in production planning, inventory control, inventory auditing and reconciliation, and even some accounting.

 

Any other questions?

 

:squid:

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, thanks.  Now I understand why you feel you  superior over others. 
We’re not worthy.


 

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2 hours ago, z-man said:

Steve, 

There are shootings in Roxbury almost every weekend of the year. Closing gun shops for a few weeks did not cause this. Gang violence did. 

I agree with you here. But, if gangs aren’t stopping for coronavirus, neither should our rights.
 

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17 hours ago, PlumFishing said:

SiM- There’s a movement afoot in The Tavern to do something for first line COVID-19 workers (nurses, EMT’s, postal workers, etc).
I’m going to lobby for HVAC. Will keep you posted. 

Everybody hold up your lighter for our HVAC heroes.

 

 

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1 hour ago, IamFish said:

Ok, thanks.  Now I understand why you feel you  superior over others. 
We’re not worthy.


 

and modest too.

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Funny, what happened to all the overflowing hospitals :point:

 

The field hospital set up in a gymnasium at Joint Base Cape Cod did not get a chance to host a single COVID-19 patient before it closed this week.

 

And that’s good news, according to Michael K. Lauf, president and CEO of Cape Cod Healthcare, which staffed the temporary hospital.

“We never got into our surge numbers,” Lauf said Thursday.

After discussions with Gov. Charlie Baker, Cape Cod Healthcare on Tuesday stopped staffing the field hospital, which had 94 beds, Lauf said.

“We did not use any of them,” he said.

The facility at Joint Base Cape Cod was a collaboration among Cape Cod Healthcare, state emergency officials and the Massachusetts National Guard.

 

It was one of several field hospitals set up across the state to handle a potential surge of COVID-19 patients.

The plan was to take coronavirus patients who had been discharged from the hospital but were still too sick to go home so as to maintain hospital capacity for patients requiring more intensive care.

 
As it turned out, even hard-pressed hospitals in Boston never exceeded capacity, and Cape Cod and Falmouth hospitals had plenty of beds

 

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11 mins ago, Riptide said:

Funny, what happened to all the overflowing hospitals :point:

 

The field hospital set up in a gymnasium at Joint Base Cape Cod did not get a chance to host a single COVID-19 patient before it closed this week.

 

And that’s good news, according to Michael K. Lauf, president and CEO of Cape Cod Healthcare, which staffed the temporary hospital.

“We never got into our surge numbers,” Lauf said Thursday.

After discussions with Gov. Charlie Baker, Cape Cod Healthcare on Tuesday stopped staffing the field hospital, which had 94 beds, Lauf said.

“We did not use any of them,” he said.

The facility at Joint Base Cape Cod was a collaboration among Cape Cod Healthcare, state emergency officials and the Massachusetts National Guard.

 

It was one of several field hospitals set up across the state to handle a potential surge of COVID-19 patients.

The plan was to take coronavirus patients who had been discharged from the hospital but were still too sick to go home so as to maintain hospital capacity for patients requiring more intensive care.

 
As it turned out, even hard-pressed hospitals in Boston never exceeded capacity, and Cape Cod and Falmouth hospitals had plenty of beds

 

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Seems great we didn’t need them.  Where’s the funny part?...

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16 mins ago, Tfole said:

Seems great we didn’t need them.  Where’s the funny part?...

The funny part is the "experts" everyone wants to listen to don't have a clue.    1.5-2 Million deaths, became 200k, then 80k,  then 60k.   Now they have to pad the stats to raise the numbers.

 

But the lack of need for hospitals and workers would seem to fly in the face of the claims made by the media and many on this site. 

 

And what do you think this cost the taxpayers ????

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8 mins ago, Riptide said:

The funny part is the "experts" everyone wants to listen to don't have a clue.    1.5-2 Million deaths, became 200k, then 80k,  then 60k.   Now they have to pad the stats to raise the numbers.

 

But the lack of need for hospitals and workers would seem to fly in the face of the claims made by the media and many on this site. 

 

And what do you think this cost the taxpayers ????

Understood.  But faced with the modeling officials were receiving and how highly communicable this incurable virus is, what would you have done? Not building out to prepare for a pandemic peak would have been the smart move after seeing what was happening in Italy and Spain?

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