ksong Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, slip n slide said: sure would like to try a black hole fly rod,any made or plans as such? maybe a 10 1/2-11' for steelhead? They make excellent freshwater rods but the flyrods they make are not popular not because of quality, but because of lack of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkman1 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 4 mins ago, ksong said: for jigging, Black Hole Cape Cod 80g, 150g, 250g . 350g and 450g rods depending on sizes of tuna you target. for popping, 7'3" or 8' Blck Hole Challenger Bank H spinning rods for tuna upto 200 lb. , for over 200 lb to giant, 7'5" Black Hole Cow Special rods. -fighting 400 lb bluefin using Black Hole Cow Special rod Just what I was looking for... will the 150g get the job done on your average 100-150 pound class bluefin or would the 250g be more suitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksong Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 7 mins ago, Chunkman1 said: Just what I was looking for... will the 150g get the job done on your average 100-150 pound class bluefin or would the 250g be more suitable I would say yes if you don't high sticking while fighting. Here is a picture of high sticking with the 250g rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelJ Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 . . . that's NOT high sticking . . . that's called Laws of Physics Don't Apply . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksong Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 mins ago, JoelJ said: . . . that's NOT high sticking . . . that's called Laws of Physics Don't Apply . . . It is a miracle he didn't break the rod. Here is picture of fighting tuna with the 150g rod. They tend to fight in high sticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkman1 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 10 mins ago, ksong said: I would say yes if you don't high sticking while fighting. Here is a picture of high sticking with the 250g rod. When you say high sticking you mean to not bring it over a certain plain of degrees?From the picture it seems he has the butt straight up and down 90°. I’m assuming anything over 75° would be high sticking which would place excess stress on the rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksong Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 min ago, Chunkman1 said: When you say high sticking you mean to not bring it over a certain plain of degrees?From the picture it seems he has the butt straight up and down 90°. I’m assuming anything over 75° would be high sticking which would place excess stress on the rod? Yes. when you fight big fish with the light rod, you don't fight over 60 degree. You fight in 30 degree - 60 degree. Here is a video how I fight tuna with light 6'8" Black Hole Charter Special slow pitch rod. RonG, Chunkman1 and cjmarti3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunkman1 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 16 mins ago, ksong said: Yes. when you fight big fish with the light rod, you don't fight over 60 degree. You fight in 30 degree - 60 degree. Here is a video how I fight tuna with light 6'8" Black Hole Charter Special slow pitch rod. Didn’t know it was between 30-60°. Learn something new everyday. Appreciate the advise, a shop by me carries your rods so I will go there to test some out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmarti3 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Kil, Thanks for posting your video on good fish fighting technique. I have watched and learned from your videos over the past years. You are a true master. Perhaps you could provide a brief tutorial on how with your method you gain a huge advantage in leverage over the fish. I continue to enjoy Blackhole rods. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksong Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Thanks for your kind words. I use pull back and forward technique to fight tuna pointing the tip of the rod toward fish. This technique is good for tuna upto 150 lb. Over 150 lb I'd rather use harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefishmaster Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Kil, many thanks for sharing your useful fish fighting technique. From the tuna video, you definitely gained a huge advantage in leverage over the fish. When did you learned this technique? Making the world safe for bait, one bluefish at a time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksong Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 20 mins ago, Bluefishmaster said: Kil, many thanks for sharing your useful fish fighting technique. From the tuna video, you definitely gained a huge advantage in leverage over the fish. When did you learned this technique? I learned it by trial and error. I used to use the rail to fight tuna. i even developed custom portable rail to fight tuna on small boats. Edited August 26, 2020 by ksong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevenw052 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) Can I ask general black hole rod questions here? If not then feel free to delete my post. I'm looking at the suzuki special (if I can find one in stock here in LI) and wanted to see if the 9'6 is good for what I'm looking for or if I should try something else. I have a budget of $200 for the rod. And I'll be fishing the beach, jetties, and rocks out on eastern long island. I'd like a rod that's string to use to pull blues and stripers from the surf? Will this rod have enough backbone for that. Edited August 26, 2020 by Stevenw052 Posted to soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksong Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 7 mins ago, Stevenw052 said: Can I ask general black hole rod questions here? If not then feel free to delete my post. I'm looking at the suzuki special (if I can find one in stock here in LI) and wanted to see if the 9'6 is good for what I'm looking for or if I should try something else. I have a budget of $200 for the rod. And I'll be fishing the beach, jetties, and rocks out on eastern long island. I'd like a rod that's string to use to pull blues and stripers from the surf? Will this rod have enough backbone for that. rod Check with J & H. If they don't have them. contact jignpop for ordering. The 9'6" stock is very low now. If you want the rod, you have to act quickly. Here is pictures of striper at jetties using the 9'6" rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksong Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 more pictures using the 9'6" Suzuki rods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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