Rose window

[Ben Lippen]

Many of you have heard me speak of my Mentor/Tradesman teacher Tommy.

Working on his place still, for his widow Karen.  Started out doing that french door, and morphed into I get to keep working and she gets me to do it all "at once" . Pergola rebuild, new lattice panels, etc. 

Week I started, back in February, She asked me to take this rose stained glass window out of the wall, and fix it up so she could give it to her daughter. 

Ya cant see the window here for the glare, but this is where it was...

 

 

Anyway, this is what it looks like...

 

Tommy made this after buying a book and reading it. The guy could do anything . He built a 5/4 jamb, and used some cedar to make stop with on the outside. And installed this into the wall of his youngest daughters' bedroom.  The brickmould he installed it with had rotted, and mostly, since her daughter had now moved on and bought her own house, Karen wanted to let her do what she wants with it.

Into another wall, or whatever. 

A little bit of rot in the usual N.W. corner. But I've planned that fix.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 6, 2020 by Ben Lippen

[Ben Lippen]

Was only some real water damage in the, yeah, northeast outside corner of course..

 So I first dug out an old piece of paulownia from a job years ago.

It's about 1/32" thinner than the old true 5/4 that Tommy used for the frame. But it's as close as I will ever get from old stock. 

So I cut out the bad and made a new/good "dutchmans patch" . 

But let's talk about glue....

 

Edited April 6, 2020 by Ben Lippen

[Ben Lippen]

 

 

 

[Ben Lippen]

After I cut the new/old filler piece and shaped it to fit... drilled it out... I marked the glue edges.  I want wood to wood glue up, but I still want "raw' wood exposed where I will put Bondo, so I have the best adherence.

 

 

 

 

 

  So I set the piece in place, pilot drill for a finish screw, and mark the edge of the piece. Then I glued up both.... to the line...

 

 

 

Edited April 6, 2020 by Ben Lippen

[Ben Lippen]

See here where i marked and glued the dutch block.

 

[Wire For Fire]

Very nice ... great lil project ya got there..

[Ben Lippen]

So, I got busy with other stuff last night and didn't get a chance to finish up this thread. But anyway, after I glued and screwed the piece on, I did other yard work for an hour to let the glue take a bit of a set.  

 

 

Because I had to cut the block with my jig saw (as most of my stuff is on the job), the bottom cut wasnt 90 degrees, and the block wanted to sit a little wonky. I set it so the outside corners all matched up. After that hour, I took a little block plane to the bottom to even it out.

 

 

Then I mixed up a batch of bondo and did a first coat.

An hour later I sanded that and did a second.

Another hour later I sanded it to finish.

Gonna drop it off outside the daughters house tonight. She can do what she wants with it.

Or call me to stick it in her wall  

 

 

[Shag]

Beautiful Window! Gotta love Bondo. 

Edited April 6, 2020 by Shag

[Gilbey]

Do Scooby and Shaggy know you stole their van??   

 

Beautiful window there, and I love that you saved so much of the original material. Other guys would have scrapped the whole frame. Nice work John! 

[gellfex]

Here's a question for you BL, I did a similar Bondo-ed dutchman in a window stool with a radiator in front of it. The heat made the seams pop like crazy. Was there any alternative?

[Ben Lippen]

7 mins ago, Gilbey said:

Do Scooby and Shaggy know you stole their van??   

 

Beautiful window there, and I love that you saved so much of the original material. Other guys would have scrapped the whole frame. Nice work John! 

I didn't steal it. They still live in it. Stinks like pot, sweat, and farts in the mornings. But I just drive fast with the windows open.

Also, FYI, it turns out Daphne is a lesbian. She's now raising alpacas outside of Seattle with her "wife".

Fred of course hooked up with Velma after she hit big with an internet company IPO. She mysteriously (lol) was found drowned, floating off the dock that her yacht was tied to in the Caymans. Fred was never charged.

 

Thanks.

[Gilbey]

Velma........she always made me weak in the knees. I'm a sucker for redheads!  

Funny stuff!! Thanks for the laugh! 

[Ben Lippen]

14 mins ago, gellfex said:

Here's a question for you BL, I did a similar Bondo-ed dutchman in a window stool with a radiator in front of it. The heat made the seams pop like crazy. Was there any alternative?

Did you have good wood to wood glue bond? That's key. Bondo is great because it doesn't crack. It will move with the wood. I've used it for years on exterior window sills where they can have much more extreme temperature changes in short periods, and have never had one problem like that.

[gellfex]

19 mins ago, Ben Lippen said:

Did you have good wood to wood glue bond? That's key. Bondo is great because it doesn't crack. It will move with the wood. I've used it for years on exterior window sills where they can have much more extreme temperature changes in short periods, and have never had one problem like that.

I think I used the Bondo as the glue, then screwed it while wet. I undersized the chunk, then dragged a straight edge over the next coat of Bondo to get the ogee shape smooth.

[Ben Lippen]

Yeah, yer probably having the old and new wood moving at different rates.