fishnmagician Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 There are two Americas right now, IMHO this essay sums up Trump pretty well..... Most people in my social circles seem to hold him in contempt, meanwhile on the other side of the aisle Trump is supplanting Reagan in most revered icon status....... Someone on Quora asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response: A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump's limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief. Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don't say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it's a fact. He doesn't even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty. Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn't just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It's all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don't. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He's not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He's more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy' is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that: • Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are. • You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man. This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it's impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of ****. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump. And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: 'My God... what... have... I... created? If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set. Source: jobsanger: British Writer Pens The Best Description Of Trump I've Read Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFischer Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 .....That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinambition Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 I stopped at british chessie_yaker, Nite_Bite_00, RonG and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine Guide Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Why do we care what a British writer thinks about Trump? Bullred44, RonG, Cabo2005 and 2 others 5 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, fishinambition said: I stopped at british good move on your part, there are some harsh truths in there that you emotional people would have difficulty confronting, best to just NOT read it and lash out in anger. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Just now, Maine Guide said: Why do we care what a British writer thinks about Trump? I doubt you care what anyone outside of the Fox Bubble thinks..... but for those with an open mind... he makes valid points. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinambition Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 min ago, fish'nmagician said: good move on your part, there are some harsh truths in there that you emotional people would have difficulty confronting, best to just NOT read it and lash out in anger. British lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigeon Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Also a valid point: RonG, KnewBee, Nite_Bite_00 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimG Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 He is as unlikeable as most progressive twats and a whole pile of Brits...... but funnier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dena Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 The author doesn't say anything new. Just the same, rehashed insults. That folks think the piece speaks truth, says more about them than the President. Little, aae0130 and BigFischer 3 Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KnewBee Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) "...And scarily, he doesn't just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It's all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront...." Liked that part as well as the rest of the article or post. Sadly, too many (his base) celebrate his boorish, crude, insults and apparently shallow depth of personality as well as his seriously defective character. I will search out the counter point narrative that describes Trump as an "extremely stable genius" Edited December 18, 2019 by KnewBee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billybob Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 How could he say Trump is not an underdog? C'mon, he didn't have a chance, remember? Frank, you keep bringing up this unfettered devotion to Trump, you like to think it's that, despite what people here have been telling you for years. But it's not. He's full of flaws, but he's still better than anything you guys got. It's as simple as that. aae0130, BigFischer, Nite_Bite_00 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotcow? Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 19 mins ago, fish'nmagician said: but for those with an open mind... he makes valid points. He makes a very one sided British point. Much like in this country, there are those that love him and those that hate him and those that realize he's better than what the other side is offering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinambition Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Any word on what the Somalis think about us? chessie_yaker, aae0130, Nite_Bite_00 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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