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so which one had/has more merit?

Clinton who lied"sexual relations" about getting a bj in the oval office

Trump who made a "perfect call" to a foreign country asking for a "favor"

What about the process related to both.

Do you think Trump should have testified like Clinton did?

Do you think people on both sides of the aisle actually are voting and voted based on laws and the interest of the country or just party lines?

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21 mins ago, Gotcow? said:

They will both have the same result.

 

Most Democrats will vote party line.

Most Republicans will vote based on the merits of the charges.

You mis-typed Republicans will vote based on fear of being primaried by a Trump backed candidate....

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32 mins ago, superstriper said:

so which one had/has more merit?

Clinton who lied"sexual relations" about getting a bj in the oval office

Trump who made a "perfect call" to a foreign country asking for a "favor"

What about the process related to both.

Do you think Trump should have testified like Clinton did?

Do you think people on both sides of the aisle actually are voting and voted based on laws and the interest of the country or just party lines?

I was a dem during clinton.

Tired of the bj summation. He lied to the people & under oath. Witness intimidation & tampering. He directed LE-SS-and elected officials to conspire in his lies. Rape was involved & ignored/covered by the MSM. Even the wife went over the prog line by attacking & degrading the accusers. Not ONE sanctimonious dem voted for conviction.

Had to endure hollyweird over doing it for years following it-everybody does it-eatin' ain't cheatin',cheating is ok, it's just sex etc etc. I had two young daughters and I disagreed with the whole propaganda cushion on his behalf AND the lesson of NO consequences for ones actions.

 

Trump--NOTE-progs calling for his impeachment PRIOR to his inauguration. NOT A SMALL insignificant CONSIDERATION. pelosi calling for impeachment for over 2.5 years-her own words this week. The ministry of truth has been attacking 24/7x365 AS WELL AS calling for impeachment from the time of his announcement.

The whole effort has been an impeachment or a crime pre judged -in search of evidence---By Any Means Necessary. 

 

In light of that statement.

Process: Unbelievably one sided -completely favoring guilt by ACCUSATION with no rebuttal. None of this would fly IF we had a free, unbiased PRESS. Secret hearings, SELECTIVE editing, PREDETERMINED VERDICT and unprecedented RULES totally favoring the accusers.

For those reasons- I'm ok with no testimony. Testimony would NOT be equal to clinton-it would be tantamount to suicide.

 

No crime has been proven. Crimes have been-fabricated with creative propaganda writing. The pre determined verdict was finally-either by exasperation, impatience-exhaustion word smithed to fit their verdict.  

This is premeditated. It goes without question that they HATE this POTUS and they would/will find any way to punish-undermine-impeach-remove perhaps even take his life.

This is their abuse of power to ruin the object of their conditioned hate. The RUSH-serves two purposes- one: to affect the upcoming ELECTION and TWO: to dilute the COUP report, facts and hopefully some real consequence for the greatest TREASON ever enacted by the PROG DEMOCRATS.

 

So which has more merit? clinton was an actual impeachment as created by our founders. This is a fabrication and part of a COUP to take down the Republic.

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3 mins ago, Gatr522 said:

I was a dem during clinton.

Tired of the bj summation. He lied to the people & under oath. Witness intimidation & tampering. He directed LE-SS-and elected officials to conspire in his lies. Rape was involved & ignored/covered by the MSM. Even the wife went over the prog line by attacking & degrading the accusers. Not ONE sanctimonious dem voted for conviction.

Had to endure hollyweird over doing it for years following it-everybody does it-eatin' ain't cheatin',cheating is ok, it's just sex etc etc. I had two young daughters and I disagreed with the whole propaganda cushion on his behalf AND the lesson of NO consequences for ones actions.

 

Trump--NOTE-progs calling for his impeachment PRIOR to his inauguration. NOT A SMALL insignificant CONSIDERATION. pelosi calling for impeachment for over 2.5 years-her own words this week. The ministry of truth has been attacking 24/7x365 AS WELL AS calling for impeachment from the time of his announcement.

The whole effort has been an impeachment or a crime pre judged -in search of evidence---By Any Means Necessary. 

 

In light of that statement.

Process: Unbelievably one sided -completely favoring guilt by ACCUSATION with no rebuttal. None of this would fly IF we had a free, unbiased PRESS. Secret hearings, SELECTIVE editing, PREDETERMINED VERDICT and unprecedented RULES totally favoring the accusers.

For those reasons- I'm ok with no testimony. Testimony would NOT be equal to clinton-it would be tantamount to suicide.

 

No crime has been proven. Crimes have been-fabricated with creative propaganda writing. The pre determined verdict was finally-either by exasperation, impatience-exhaustion word smithed to fit their verdict.  

This is premeditated. It goes without question that they HATE this POTUS and they would/will find any way to punish-undermine-impeach-remove perhaps even take his life.

This is their abuse of power to ruin the object of their conditioned hate. The RUSH-serves two purposes- one: to affect the upcoming ELECTION and TWO: to dilute the COUP report, facts and hopefully some real consequence for the greatest TREASON ever enacted by the PROG DEMOCRATS.

 

So which has more merit? clinton was an actual impeachment as created by our founders. This is a fabrication and part of a COUP to take down the Republic.

 

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This in spades

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1 hour ago, superstriper said:

so which one had/has more merit?

Clinton who lied"sexual relations" about getting a bj in the oval office

Trump who made a "perfect call" to a foreign country asking for a "favor"

What about the process related to both.

Do you think Trump should have testified like Clinton did?

Do you think people on both sides of the aisle actually are voting and voted based on laws and the interest of the country or just party lines?

Why start off with a lie? Clinton lied before a grand jury. Was Trump called before a grand jury? No.  What 'law' did Trump break again?

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1 min ago, Wraith said:

Why start off with a lie? Clinton lied before a grand jury. Was Trump called before a grand jury? No.  What 'law' did Trump break again?

I stated clinton lied in the very first sentence lol he lied to the grand jury about his sexual encounter with ML

 

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29 mins ago, Gatr522 said:

I was a dem during clinton.

Tired of the bj summation. He lied to the people & under oath. Witness intimidation & tampering. He directed LE-SS-and elected officials to conspire in his lies. Rape was involved & ignored/covered by the MSM. Even the wife went over the prog line by attacking & degrading the accusers. Not ONE sanctimonious dem voted for conviction.

Had to endure hollyweird over doing it for years following it-everybody does it-eatin' ain't cheatin',cheating is ok, it's just sex etc etc. I had two young daughters and I disagreed with the whole propaganda cushion on his behalf AND the lesson of NO consequences for ones actions.

 

Trump--NOTE-progs calling for his impeachment PRIOR to his inauguration. NOT A SMALL insignificant CONSIDERATION. pelosi calling for impeachment for over 2.5 years-her own words this week. The ministry of truth has been attacking 24/7x365 AS WELL AS calling for impeachment from the time of his announcement.

The whole effort has been an impeachment or a crime pre judged -in search of evidence---By Any Means Necessary. 

 

In light of that statement.

Process: Unbelievably one sided -completely favoring guilt by ACCUSATION with no rebuttal. None of this would fly IF we had a free, unbiased PRESS. Secret hearings, SELECTIVE editing, PREDETERMINED VERDICT and unprecedented RULES totally favoring the accusers.

For those reasons- I'm ok with no testimony. Testimony would NOT be equal to clinton-it would be tantamount to suicide.

 

No crime has been proven. Crimes have been-fabricated with creative propaganda writing. The pre determined verdict was finally-either by exasperation, impatience-exhaustion word smithed to fit their verdict.  

This is premeditated. It goes without question that they HATE this POTUS and they would/will find any way to punish-undermine-impeach-remove perhaps even take his life.

This is their abuse of power to ruin the object of their conditioned hate. The RUSH-serves two purposes- one: to affect the upcoming ELECTION and TWO: to dilute the COUP report, facts and hopefully some real consequence for the greatest TREASON ever enacted by the PROG DEMOCRATS.

 

So which has more merit? clinton was an actual impeachment as created by our founders. This is a fabrication and part of a COUP to take down the Republic.

he lied under oath about getting a bj the rest was nonsense-is bill a good guy nope he is not

the Trump impeachment by the way is nonsense as well

 

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16 mins ago, superstriper said:

he lied under oath about getting a bj the rest was nonsense-is bill a good guy nope he is not

the Trump impeachment by the way is nonsense as well

 

agreed on both...

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2 hours ago, superstriper said:

so which one had/has more merit?

Clinton who lied"sexual relations" about getting a bj in the oval office

Trump who made a "perfect call" to a foreign country asking for a "favor"

What about the process related to both.

Do you think Trump should have testified like Clinton did?

Do you think people on both sides of the aisle actually are voting and voted based on laws and the interest of the country or just party lines?

Think you need to re phrase the line about  the two.

 

Clinton was charged with lying to Congress (What he lied about has no bearing just that he lied, did or didn't he)

Trump is charges with Obstructing and Abuse of power. (His guilt or innocence is like Clinton, did he do it)

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31 mins ago, Wraith said:

Why start off with a lie? Clinton lied before a grand jury. Was Trump called before a grand jury? No.  What 'law' did Trump break again?

Like many, you intentionally omit the most relevant part. 

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30 mins ago, Wraith said:

Why start off with a lie? Clinton lied before a grand jury. Was Trump called before a grand jury? No.  What 'law' did Trump break again?

If true.

The House Judiciary Committee voted over Republican objections to advance two articles of impeachment accusing President Trump of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

Can't cite the specific law about either Clinton or Rump. Can you cite the law Clinton broke?

 

 

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2 mins ago, Stonesipher said:

Think you need to re phrase the line about  the two.

 

Clinton was charged with lying to Congress (What he lied about has no bearing just that he lied, did or didn't he)

Trump is charges with Obstructing and Abuse of power. (His guilt or innocence is like Clinton, did he do it)

No, clinton lied to a grand jury. 

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2 mins ago, Stonesipher said:

If true.

The House Judiciary Committee voted over Republican objections to advance two articles of impeachment accusing President Trump of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

Can't cite the specific law about either Clinton or Rump. Can you cite the law Clinton broke?

 

 

I believe it was 18 USC § 1623. Going from memory here. Could be 1621 also.

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