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Virginia Democrats, "sic semper tyrannis” and gun sanctuaries

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Is there any way this does not lead to more division and rancor? 
 

Sic semper tyrannis is a Latin phrase meaning "thus always to tyrants" suggesting that bad outcomes will or should befall tyrants. It just happens to be the motto of the commonwealth of Virginia. The Virginia State Dems should consider that, no? While the Gov did not raise the question, one of his fellow Virgina Dems did suggest "nationalizing" the VA National Guard to enforce the yet-to-be-passed gun restrictions should the sheriffs choose to not enforce them in sanctuary counties.
 

Further, the Dems are threatening to withhold funding for both sheriffs departments and local prosecutors' offices in such counties. 
 

The general in charge of the VA NG has made a formal statement that tries to walk the fine line between staying apolitical and having to address the divisions wrought by the Dem's blatant threat. His restraint is admirable and his back is not against any wall, yet. 
 

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The conclusion to a piece in Bearing Arms:

 

In fact, if you read between the lines of the adjutant general’s statement, it’s clear that McEachin’s comment is already causing a stir within the Guard itself. The men and women of the Virginia National Guard signed up to defend freedom, not establish a police state on American soil where soldiers search for scofflaws who refuse to register their rifles with the Virginia State Police.
 

Whiffs of a cold civil war are on the wind....

 

VA National Guard Issues Statement Over Calls To Enforce Gun Control

Democrat Congressman Donald McEachin’s comments about using the National Guard to enforce Governor Ralph Northam’s proposed gun control laws in Virginia has caused a storm of controversy in the state, to the point that the Adjutant General of the Virginia National Guard has issued a statement, after scores of phone calls and emails from concerned citizens and curious media figures. WSLS-TV in Roanoke was the first to report on the comments by Major General Timothy P. Williams.

“We have received multiple questions regarding proposed legislation for the 2020 General Assembly session and the authority of the Governor of Virginia to employ the Virginia National Guard in a law enforcement role. Please make sure you share this message with your all of your personnel.

 

We understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights. We will not speculate about the possible use of the Virginia National Guard. I encourage everyone to be patient while we allow our elected officials to work through the legislative process.

 

We have not received any requests from the Governor, or anyone on his staff, about serving in a law enforcement role related to any proposed legislation.

 

I expect our Soldiers, Airmen and members of the Virginia Defense Force to be professional and respectful in their discussions about this subject. As private citizens, our personnel are free to express their opinions to their elected officials, but they should not engage in any political activity while in a uniformed status.

 

We will provide regular updates when appropriate during the General Assembly session. Please utilize your chain of command to direct any questions or concerns to my office, and we will do our best to address them.”

For those who were hoping that Maj. General Williams was going to come out swinging with a “Hell no we’re not taking anybody’s guns”, it wasn’t going to happen. Even if that’s how the adjutant general feels, he’s not going to pick a fight with the governor if he doesn’t have to. He can kick this can down the road, at least until and if Northam actually requests that the National Guard go into rural counties to look for people who are allowing their 17-year old daughter to hunt unsupervised on their property, or to try to catch someone transferring a firearm without a background check.
 

If Northam were actually dumb enough to do that, I suspect what he’d find is yet another crisis of public confidence on his hands. Not only would he have to deal with dozens of counties and cities that have said “no” to unconstitutional gun control laws, he’d create a crisis within the Virginia National Guard, whose members swear to uphold the Constitution. Many of those National Guardsmen are gun owners and Second Amendment supporters as well, and I suspect there would be a genuine fracturing of the organization over the issue.

 

In fact, if you read between the lines of the adjutant general’s statement, it’s clear that McEachin’s comment is already causing a stir within the Guard itself. The men and women of the Virginia National Guard signed up to defend freedom, not establish a police state on American soil where soldiers search for scofflaws who refuse to register their rifles with the Virginia State Police.

 

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I'm guessing the Guv has a nice secure job writing parking tickets in deep Appalachia just ready and waiting for the VA NG General.

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5 mins ago, Gotcow? said:

Does VA have the ability to recall its elected officials?

 

That would be the correct recourse if this happens.

The Governor was not recalled for his blackface experiences. The state has gone blue.

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27 mins ago, Dan Tinman said:

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prevents this without the consent of Congress.

Not for Guardsmen in Title 32 status - they are pure State assets.  No federal involvement.  

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29 mins ago, Dan Tinman said:

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prevents this without the consent of Congress.

Way to Go, Dan.  The VA Governor need to be advised to Back Off.  Most of the Virginian Population are honest Patriots and do not harm anybody with their weapons, Most are hunters and calybird shooters. Others are Shooting Skeet, Trap & Rifle contests.If you try to take their guns away, you are breaking the 2nd Amendment.of our Bill of Rights. Eff with solid citizens and you will surprsed by how fast you can be impeached  Crimes against the Constitutional's Rights to defend their homes will upset you wet dream as the first Governorr to Seize Americans Weapons from them!

 

 

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1 hour ago, JimP said:

Not for Guardsmen in Title 32 status - they are pure State assets.  No federal involvement.  

Then how do they get called up for duty along with regular Army units?  

 

58 mins ago, RJ said:

Way to Go, Dan.  The VA Governor need to be advised to Back Off.  Most of the Virginian Population are honest Patriots and do not harm anybody with their weapons, Most are hunters and calybird shooters. Others are Shooting Skeet, Trap & Rifle contests.If you try to take their guns away, you are breaking the 2nd Amendment.of our Bill of Rights. Eff with solid citizens and you will surprsed by how fast you can be impeached  Crimes against the Constitutional's Rights to defend their homes will upset you wet dream as the first Governorr to Seize Americans Weapons from them!

 

 

I sincerely hope it never comes to that.  You would think if a guy is smart enough to get elected as Governor of a state he'd be smart enough to know what he can't do legally.  If he isn't smart enough to know that he doesn't deserve the job.

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9 hours ago, Dan Tinman said:

Then how do they get called up for duty along with regular Army units?  

Guardsmen exist in USC Title 32 (State Guard).  They are pure State assets until federalized under Title 10. That occurs when either certain disasters occur and the President calls them up, or the Governor allows his forces to be used, i.e. grants "permission."   That's how we have a number of Guardsmen on the border at present from States not contiguous to the border.  

 

In Title 32 status, they are NOT Federalized and therefor can do law enforcement all day long.  That's why we have interstate compacts (mutual assistance agreements) between multiple States and their Guard units.   It's kind of interesting as it is one of the last vestiges of federalism extant in our Country.  

 

  

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