BrianBM Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Un-confuse me. The Torque II is the top of Penn's spinning line, but for my fishing, it's far more than I need. Dropping down to the $200 - $300 price bracket for surf casting, which is currently considered Penn's primo reel? Scoobydoo's review of the VI is favorable. If he's done a Slammer III, I've missed it .... what separates these product lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just a full metal body and sideplate on the III, whereas the VI has a metal body and (presumably) a synthetic sideplate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrowinPlugs Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 I believe the Slammer 3 is the "Top Dog" in that situation. That being said I had the 4500 and 5500. 5500 was pretty smooth, but started sounding geary after one season the 4500 was nice until it got wet. The AR clutch took a crap after a couple splashes with saltwater. I do clean all my reels after every trip, but somehow saltwater got past the hydrophobic coating at the AR clutch and made a mess of things. Additionally the gears on the 4500 felt VERY geary early on. At that price point I'd rather just get a Gosa. klunkers and Grayson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Aaaaahhh, the old Penn AR clutch. I have a perfectly (otherwise) nice SS 750 that probably cost me three times the purchase price, over the years, to the bail flipping in mid-cast. Half a dozen guys fixed it with no discernible result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunanorth Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 17 hours ago, BrianBM said: Un-confuse me. The Torque II is the top of Penn's spinning line, but for my fishing, it's far more than I need. Dropping down to the $200 - $300 price bracket for surf casting, which is currently considered Penn's primo reel? Scoobydoo's review of the VI is favorable. If he's done a Slammer III, I've missed it .... what separates these product lines? Mechanical AR backup starts at the 5500 size and up in Slammer III, in Spinfisher VI it starts at 7500 size and up. Slammer III is IPX6 sealing, Spinfisher VI is IPX5. All sizes of Slammer III have "double drag" design, with drag elements on top, and also an oversize element on the bottom made of the "Dura Drag" material [same as used in Internationals]. Spinfisher VI has a more traditional drag design, with all elements on top of the spool, using the HT-100 material. Penn Pro Staffer"The best kind of fish in the world is the one on the end of a kid's line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Aha! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted December 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 ..... hoo boy, I'd like to meet more fish in the surf that need a double-sided drag, as in the Slammer III, to take on. All this global warming and STILL no tarpon, wahoo or sailfish in Fire Island Inlet. But I keep hoping. RockRonin and ThrowinPlugs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunanorth Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) * Edited December 5, 2019 by TimS FB links don’t work here...YT links do :-) Penn Pro Staffer"The best kind of fish in the world is the one on the end of a kid's line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunanorth Posted December 5, 2019 Report Share Posted December 5, 2019 Above video link shows a black marlin being fought from shore. Penn Pro Staffer"The best kind of fish in the world is the one on the end of a kid's line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted December 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 If there is a reel whose purchase would draw black marlin into Long Island Sound, I'm good for it. Which Slammer would do that? Tunanorth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsbergen Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 9:05 PM, BrianBM said: Un-confuse me. The Torque II is the top of Penn's spinning line, but for my fishing, it's far more than I need. Dropping down to the $200 - $300 price bracket for surf casting, which is currently considered Penn's primo reel? Scoobydoo's review of the VI is favorable. If he's done a Slammer III, I've missed it .... what separates these product lines? For strictly fishing plugs from the surf I would highly recommend looking at the Spinfisher series over Slammer3. IMHO the Slammer3 sizes 5500 and up is a heavy/clunky overbuilt boat reel. 5500 are 22.5oz & 6500 are over 24oz. So your left with only 2 models the 3500&4500 and IMHO the 3500 is too small. The Spinfisher6 series was produced with the surfcasters in mind. You have more options with the Spinfishers and the price point can’t be beat for what you are getting. Only thing I DO NOT like ( more like hate) are the paddle style handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrowinPlugs Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 19 mins ago, jsbergen said: Only thing I DO NOT like ( more like hate) are the paddle style handles. Easy fix, Gomexus knobs are cheap and easy to install if you have 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted December 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 I'm not fussy on handles. The banana on my Nautil 7500 annoys a lot of people, but it doesn't bother me. If i were buying a midsize reel for the surf/shore right now, the long cast Spinfisher VI would be it. Scooby likes it for salt. 'S fine, then. I note no LC versions of the Slammer III, and distance does matter. I may make one concession to the current era of mostly-small fish. I forget the reel below the VI series, it's got an all-graphite or plastic body and a modest max drag. However, it DOES have an LC model down at the bottom of the size chart, and for casting 1/2 - 5/8 to 1 1/2 oz., that might add a few yards to the best possible cast on a cutting-edge rod. I'll bet it would be fine for the largest shore little tunny I'll ever see on Long Island (@TunaNorth)? Small bass, sure, bluefish ..... if the inshore waters fill up with 20+ lb. fluke, well, I'll take my chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 9:05 PM, BrianBM said: Un-confuse me. The Torque II is the top of Penn's spinning line, but for my fishing, it's far more than I need. Dropping down to the $200 - $300 price bracket for surf casting, which is currently considered Penn's primo reel? Scoobydoo's review of the VI is favorable. If he's done a Slammer III, I've missed it .... what separates these product lines? I always get a kick when I go back to an older vid and see em get 100k + views......always boggles my mind. I think the simpled breakdown in differences is. Spinfisher under 6500 have aluminum main gears over have brass Spinfisher is a top only drag stack...that also has a lower minimum drag setting....slammer 3 is about 2lbs at minimum Spinfisher rotor under 6500 is graphite. Slammer metal.....its' a wash on smaller sizes.....the lighter rotor may be a benefit to some. There is a cosmetic bumper on the slammer that i belive is riveted on...where on the spinfisher vi, it's a screw (no clue of the purposes) Spinfisher has stainless shaft.....Slammer i believe is TI or a coated alu. The spinfisher is a smoother overall cranker at least the 3 4500's i've fished Amazon has slammers priced under 150$ often...and spinfisher combos for under 130 from time to time. Beastly Backlash and BigRedBearClaw 2 "Panacheless is no way to go through life" Tims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagman Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, jsbergen said: IMHO the Slammer3 sizes 5500 and up is a heavy/clunky overbuilt boat reel. 5500 are 22.5oz & 6500 are over 24oz. Thats a big load of BS. The Slammer is a GREAT surf reel. It also competes with the $1000.00 Stella’s on the boat. Lets see, my VS/VSX 200/250 are in the the 22oz range. My ZB zx22 is in the 22oz range. My 704/706 are in the 22oz range. My Saltiga Z4500 is in the 22oz. range.....I have a longer list....high end and under $200.00 range reels. These reels are all in the same weight range as the Slammer 3 5500. Millions of guys have been fishing the reels I listed above in the SURF for years. Are you saying all these reels are clunkers? BTW, the Slammer 4500 at around 14.5 oz, will outperform most bigger reels with pretty much any fish from the surf. Edited December 7, 2019 by Tagman Beastly Backlash, RockRonin and reelfire 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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