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I found starla slugs to be pretty accurate cheap slugs.....

 

I'd never use buckshot.  I do hunt in a shotgun only area, but they allow muzzleloaders.  So, I use one of them....  Either a modern one or a 54 cal flintlock if the weather cooperates.

 

In an anything goes area of NY, I use a lever gun in 450 marlin.  IF Straight walled cartridges is an option, go for it.......

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In over 40 years of shotgun deer hunting I've used buckshot once. That was enough. My Dad was trying to push deer out of the laurel into me. He threw me a couple rounds of 00 buck and said to put that in the chamber. Would be better for a deer running through the thick stuff. I'm waiting, and out pops a good sized doe. Facing me 30 yards away, and ready to jump back in. I put the bead on the base of her neck and shot. She ran off.

 

I go up to where she was standing and there's enough hair to make a wig. A little blood, but not much. Dad comes along, "Did you get one". I showed him the hair. He got on the track (there was a little snow) and told me to stay put. He'd either find the deer or turn it back to me. This was about 9AM. At 4:30 it was getting dark so I headed back to the truck. Dad was already there. "Saw that deer run a couple of times but never did catch up to it. Followed it all around the mountain". 

 

With a slug that deer would've dropped in it's tracks. Never shot anything but ever again. I did switch to a rifled barrel and sabots sometime in the 90's I think.  

 

RIP Dad. Miss you always, but especially this time of year.

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1 hour ago, Eagles Dare said:

In over 40 years of shotgun deer hunting I've used buckshot once. That was enough. My Dad was trying to push deer out of the laurel into me. He threw me a couple rounds of 00 buck and said to put that in the chamber. Would be better for a deer running through the thick stuff. I'm waiting, and out pops a good sized doe. Facing me 30 yards away, and ready to jump back in. I put the bead on the base of her neck and shot. She ran off.

 

I go up to where she was standing and there's enough hair to make a wig. A little blood, but not much. Dad comes along, "Did you get one". I showed him the hair. He got on the track (there was a little snow) and told me to stay put. He'd either find the deer or turn it back to me. This was about 9AM. At 4:30 it was getting dark so I headed back to the truck. Dad was already there. "Saw that deer run a couple of times but never did catch up to it. Followed it all around the mountain". 

 

With a slug that deer would've dropped in it's tracks. Never shot anything but ever again. I did switch to a rifled barrel and sabots sometime in the 90's I think.  

 

RIP Dad. Miss you always, but especially this time of year.

I have never personally used buckshot always slugs.  When I could hunt on my own at 15 we would use a slug called "Breneke" I believe, made in Germany.  Shot 5 times into a paper plate at 50 yds out of a smooth bore, pretty accurate.  When rifled barrels became legal back in the early '90 I switched over and never looked back.  I think both rifled shotguns and rifled muzzle loaders became legal the same year.

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7 mins ago, b-ware said:

I have never personally used buckshot always slugs.  When I could hunt on my own at 15 we would use a slug called "Breneke" I believe, made in Germany.  Shot 5 times into a paper plate at 50 yds out of a smooth bore, pretty accurate.  When rifled barrels became legal back in the early '90 I switched over and never looked back.  I think both rifled shotguns and rifled muzzle loaders became legal the same year.

I’ve got some of those slugs lying around somewhere. They come in a clear hull, right?

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1 min ago, JTR said:

I’ve got some of those slugs lying around somewhere. They come in a clear hull, right?

I remember them being in a black hull, silver lettering and a low brass base, I'll have to look if I have any left...………..

Another real accurate slug was the "Activ" all plastic hull...………. 2 3/4 in. magnums 1 1/4 oz. HP slugs

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1 min ago, b-ware said:

I remember them being in a black hull, silver lettering and a low brass base, I'll have to look if I have any left...………..

Another real accurate slug was the "Activ" all plastic hull...………. 2 3/4 in. magnums 1 1/4 oz. HP slugs

I think the low brass may have been Breneke. They were real popular in the mid 70s.

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5 mins ago, JTR said:

I’ve got some of those slugs lying around somewhere. They come in a clear hull, right?

 

Yes, kind of an opaque white. I've still got a few, along with several other kinds. Lightfields, Remington sabots, and plain ole Winchester 1oz slugs. My shotgun loves the Hornaday SST's so that's all I shoot now. Have taken deer with them at distances I never would've believed back in the smoothbore only days. 

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Buckshot can be used effectively. I shot my first couple of deer with it around 13 years ago. I switched to rifled barrel and slug not long after and haven't turned back since.The problem is most guys that use it do not pattern their guns; and shoot it far past its intended reach. They wound deer and blame the 00. If you have a properly patterned gun with the proper choke and have practiced with your gun you should drop deer close to  if not in their tracks every time inside 30 yds. I switched because I want to be able to shoot to 100 and I do not do a lot of brush busting drives these days. 00 has no advantages over slugs while sitting in a stand; but can be a little more forgiving on a moving deer.

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4 hours ago, b-ware said:

I remember them being in a black hull, silver lettering and a low brass base, I'll have to look if I have any left...………..

Another real accurate slug was the "Activ" all plastic hull...………. 2 3/4 in. magnums 1 1/4 oz. HP slugs

I took my first duck ever, a hen mallard, with an Activ shell. Weird thing was that that duck only had 1 leg. No scar, no stump, nothing. Just feathered over like there was never a leg there. Got it with a mossberg 835 that I bought from another member here (trout worm). Still have that shell lying around somewhere. 

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Interesting exception. A slug would undoubtedly ruin more of the pelt than you'd want, if there was any possibility of resale. I assume there is, and that the exception was crafted with that in mind.  

 

What's the Massachusetts coyote standard, a .22?  They're not big animals.

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On 12/5/2019 at 4:01 PM, Eagles Dare said:

 

Yes, kind of an opaque white. I've still got a few, along with several other kinds. Lightfields, Remington sabots, and plain ole Winchester 1oz slugs. My shotgun loves the Hornaday SST's so that's all I shoot now. Have taken deer with them at distances I never would've believed back in the smoothbore only days. 

I probably have a few too somewhere. I think the 2 3/4 had red writing and the 3 inch had black?.... maybe..... been a while .

 

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