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14 mins ago, snag777 said:

i casted last night with that in 40 MPH wind,HJ#14 ,longest cast 160'.

with 7' rod.

You must be a heck of a caster. I would be luck if I can get 40ft with a 1oz bucktail with 40 mph wind.  Let along a 5/8oz flying potato chip.   Good. now try fish for a few nights, compare your results with plain old swivel or knot.  

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3 mins ago, hobobob said:

You must be a heck of a caster. I would be luck if I can get 40ft with a 1oz bucktail with 40 mph wind.  Let along a 5/8oz flying potato chip.   Good. now try fish for a few nights, compare your results with plain old swivel or knot.  

my main line is 30# power pro slick tie to swivel with dual snap,25# mono leader 24"  with 2" loop and beed inside and at the end dual swivel,i fish with that all time i will not change anything it work very good,i was casting SP minow last night 180' same setup,i am looking for fish long destance if they are not there i swich to lighter plug..

last week same setup  with help off heavy wind i was casting 240' with SP minow,cheep walmart reel.

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On 11/21/2019 at 1:08 AM, Beachglass Guru said:

Not sure why everyone throws the swivel between braid and leader...

 

I use an fg for braid to flouro.  Then the swivel goes on my lure itself.. infact most of my lures have the swivel on them already in my bag.. I have never experienced and issue from this rigging and I have zero twist issues.  

 

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i do exactly this except only on spoons/diamond jigs only everything else direct tie or ta clip

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On 11/21/2019 at 1:08 AM, Beachglass Guru said:

I use an fg for braid to flouro.  Then the swivel goes on my lure itself..

 

Have you found a difference with ball bearing vs barrel swivels? I'm starting to throw some jigging spoons and the barrel swivels seem to help but don't eliminate twist completely.

 

Looking for the smallest ball bearing swivels available...these are freshwater size metals. 

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14 mins ago, buddha162 said:

 

Have you found a difference with ball bearing vs barrel swivels? I'm starting to throw some jigging spoons and the barrel swivels seem to help but don't eliminate twist completely.

 

Looking for the smallest ball bearing swivels available...these are freshwater size metals. 

Spro for the smallest and strongest imo 

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1 hour ago, buddha162 said:

 

Have you found a difference with ball bearing vs barrel swivels? I'm starting to throw some jigging spoons and the barrel swivels seem to help but don't eliminate twist completely.

 

Looking for the smallest ball bearing swivels available...these are freshwater size metals. 

Have you tried the mustad fastach clips with swivel?

 

They are a FW clip with really tiny ball bearing swivels built in.. I love them for FW

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In freshwater, I just use a small swivel snap to connect to spoons and such.

"It's funny how it's the little things in life that mean the most
Not where you live, what you drive or the price tag on your clothes" -Zac Brown Band

 

"A leader is someone who keeps their head when everyone else is losing theirs." -Bryant Wright

 

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On 11/21/2019 at 1:08 AM, Beachglass Guru said:

Not sure why everyone throws the swivel between braid and leader...

 

I use an fg for braid to flouro.  Then the swivel goes on my lure itself.. infact most of my lures have the swivel on them already in my bag.. I have never experienced and issue from this rigging and I have zero twist issues.  

 

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Then you use a clip to attach to the swivel?

Seems like a lot of "stuff" in front of the plug.

I don't think a swivel does hardly anything to

reduce twist. If you have twist, when you hang

your lure from the rod tip, the line and leader

untwist together,no? Not just from the swivel

down. I use a barrel at the braid/leader connection

almost exclusively as a point to grab to lift fish

and for the convenience of tying on a fresh leader.

Never got the bead thing. What is the difference between

occasionally reeling your barrel to your tip or a bead.?

To each his own. No wrong way. If you don't mind.

What make is the plastic swimmer? Thx.

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 when i first started tying leader direct to braid mainline i was concerned about line twist so i would occasionally make a high arching cast down the beach so that the line would be laying loosely on the sand. i would then walk the line and look for twist. never saw any

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On 11/21/2019 at 1:08 AM, Beachglass Guru said:

Not sure why everyone throws the swivel between braid and leader...

 

I use an fg for braid to flouro.  Then the swivel goes on my lure itself.. infact most of my lures have the swivel on them already in my bag.. I have never experienced and issue from this rigging and I have zero twist issues.  

 

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I would think the weight of the swivel and o rings on the swimmers and poppers would change the action of the lure?

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