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Schiffty announced new witness rules guaranteed to prevent an open investigation process.

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Can this get any more comical? The party that claims it is conducting an open and fair process has now issued rules that will further limit the GOP’s already limited ability to participate in the process. 
 

I think Schiffty was shocked that Nunes said his first witness to be called would be Adam Schoff himself as a fact witness. He could not allow that.  
 

And I think he was nervous that they might have the WB called, so they are making sure that can’t happen too. 
 

Adam Schiff says Republicans must justify impeachment hearing witnesses

By Bob Fredericks

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff on Thursday released a tightened set of guidelines over what potential witnesses can be called in the impeachment hearings, saying Republicans must justify their relevance according to a three-point criteria.

The California Democrat, in a letter to Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), the ranking member of the committee, formally asked for the GOP members’ requests for witnesses they would like to call for next week’s public hearings.

 

The narrowed-scope of the questions, first obtained by Politico, are:

 

  • Did the president request that a foreign leader and government initiate investigations to benefit the president’s personal political interests in the United States, including an investigation related to the president’s political rival and potential opponent in the 2020 US presidential election?

 

  • Did the president — directly or through agents — seek to use the power of the Office of the President and other instruments of the federal government in other ways to apply pressure on the head of state and government of Ukraine to advance the president’s personal political interests, including by leveraging an Oval Office meeting desired by the president of Ukraine or by withholding US military assistance to Ukraine?

 

  • Did the president and his administration seek to obstruct, suppress or cover up information to conceal from the Congress and the American people evidence about the president’s actions and conduct?

 

Republicans had said they wanted to call a range of witnesses, possibly including Biden’s son Hunter, who scored a $50,000-a-month gig on the board of the Ukrainian energy giant Burisma while his dad was the veep.

 

But the resolution passed by the House last week specifically says that Schiff would have the final say over which witnesses the GOP could call, with Democrats saying they wanted to prevent sideshows and grandstanding, while the Republicans want to be able to rebut key witnesses.

 

If Schiff were to veto any of the GOP’s witnesses, the matter would go to a vote before the full committee, which is controlled by the Democrats.

 

Adding to the potential combustibility of the proceedings is the GOP’s decision to add Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, an outspoken Trump defender, to the Intel panel.

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They just need to request to call the same witnesses providing reasons they want them called as outlined- If they are denied bring it out in the open that it was. 

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1 min ago, Livefreeordie said:

Seems like pretty normal criteria to me. It's possible that you're too partisan to recognize this. 

It is exactly the opposite of Clinton and Nixon

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3 mins ago, tomkaz said:

Can this get any more comical? The party that claims it is conducting an open and fair process has now issued rules that will further limit the GOP’s already limited ability to participate in the process. 
 

I think Schiffty was shocked that Nunes said his first witness to be called would be Adam Schoff himself as a fact witness. He could not allow that.  
 

And I think he was nervous that they might have the WB called, so they are making sure that can’t happen too. 
 

Adam Schiff says Republicans must justify impeachment hearing witnesses

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff on Thursday released a tightened set of guidelines over what potential witnesses can be called in the impeachment hearings, saying Republicans must justify their relevance according to a three-point criteria.

The California Democrat, in a letter to Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), the ranking member of the committee, formally asked for the GOP members’ requests for witnesses they would like to call for next week’s public hearings.

 

The narrowed-scope of the questions, first obtained by Politico, are:

 

  • Did the president request that a foreign leader and government initiate investigations to benefit the president’s personal political interests in the United States, including an investigation related to the president’s political rival and potential opponent in the 2020 US presidential election?

 

  • Did the president — directly or through agents — seek to use the power of the Office of the President and other instruments of the federal government in other ways to apply pressure on the head of state and government of Ukraine to advance the president’s personal political interests, including by leveraging an Oval Office meeting desired by the president of Ukraine or by withholding US military assistance to Ukraine?

 

  • Did the president and his administration seek to obstruct, suppress or cover up information to conceal from the Congress and the American people evidence about the president’s actions and conduct?

 

Republicans had said they wanted to call a range of witnesses, possibly including Biden’s son Hunter, who scored a $50,000-a-month gig on the board of the Ukrainian energy giant Burisma while his dad was the veep.

 

But the resolution passed by the House last week specifically says that Schiff would have the final say over which witnesses the GOP could call, with Democrats saying they wanted to prevent sideshows and grandstanding, while the Republicans want to be able to rebut key witnesses.

 

If Schiff were to veto any of the GOP’s witnesses, the matter would go to a vote before the full committee, which is controlled by the Democrats.

 

Adding to the potential combustibility of the proceedings is the GOP’s decision to add Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, an outspoken Trump defender, to the Intel panel.

These require the witness to have knowledge of Trump's innermost thoughts.  No witness is likely to be able to answer any of those questions.

 

BTW, here we go with the obstruction stuff again.  It's Schiftie's exclusion of questions about Biden an obstruction of justice?

How is releasing the transcript an act of suppressing information?

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1 min ago, Livefreeordie said:

Seems like pretty normal criteria to me. It's possible that you're too partisan to recognize this. 

The whole process from day one has been partisan but you maybe too inclined to see that. 

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2 mins ago, Livefreeordie said:

Seems like pretty normal criteria to me. It's possible that you're too partisan to recognize this. 

Or your partisanship makes this grab at narrative control seem “normal” because it suits your own biases. 

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5 mins ago, Livefreeordie said:

Seems like pretty normal criteria to me. It's possible that you're too partisan to recognize this. 

Me thinks your the partisan one. Changing the rules as the game is played. Dem 101. 

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1 min ago, Steve_in_PA said:

These require the witness to have knowledge of Trump's innermost thoughts.  No witness is likely to be able to answer any of those questions.

 

BTW, here we go with the obstruction stuff again.  It's Schiftie's exclusion of questions about Biden an obstruction of justice?

How is releasing the transcript an act of suppressing information?

What they are doing is preventing any examination of why Trump asked Zelensky for help looking into the Ukraine’s role in the 2016 election. That discussion does not even involve a political rival and yet there is no interest by the head of the House INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE in investigating that. 

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3 mins ago, The Dude said:

Good for them taking preventive measures against the assclown brigade's antics. 

Schifty is the ass clown, he has proven it for the last 3 years. 

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Just now, Nite_Bite_00 said:

Me thinks your the partisan one. Changing the rules as the game is played. Dem 101. 

But what is comical is that Graham will have no such restrictions if this ever gets to the Senate. So instead of dragging some of this out into the open now when he can control the narrative, Schiff is guaranteeing that voters will ask “That’s interesting, why didn’t it come up in the House investigation?” 
 

Polling on the openness of the House Dem’s process is already low, this will not help. 

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Good shoot by Schiff - gotta do something to prevent the GOP clowns from trying muck things like pigs in mud.   Because guaranteed in absence of any defense against solid, irrefutable evidence collected so far they'll try to pull stunts to distract from it.  Like storming a security area.  

 

Thank God Schiff is running the show and Pelosi is masterfully pulling all the right buttons so far.   Congress GOP really have their panties in a wad and are made to look like clowns trying to attack the process instead of the actual substance.  :th:

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3 mins ago, GeoffT said:

Good shoot by Schiff - gotta do something to prevent the GOP clowns from trying muck things like pigs in mud.   Because guaranteed in absence of any defense against solid, irrefutable evidence collected so far to try pull stunts to distract from it.  Like storming a security area.  

 

Thank God Schiff is running the show and Pelosi is masterfully pulling all the right buttons so far.   Congress GOP really have their panties in a wad and are made to look like clowns trying to attack the process instead of the actual substance.  :th:

Truly delusional.

 

The Dims have a real problem with due process when it does not suit their purposes. It did not used to be that way, but then most of the Dims were not all socialists and communists in those days.

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