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After bluster from both sides, Trump just tweeted that he will meet with Chinese vice premier Li tomorrow in DC. After rumors overnight that the Chinese delegation was going to cut its US visit short, we get another China soybean purchase announced and Trump’s tweet about meeting Li tomorrow. 

 

Whether a “lite” deal or not, something might be happening on that front. Given the number of talking heads and pundits who claimed there would be no deal until Trump loses next year’s US election, this might come as a shock to some. 

 

Also, if you have not noticed, Pelosi has been talking about USMCA which suggests to me that she knows she can’t “do nothing” on that front for much longer. 

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BTW, IF and that is a big IF, a deal is forthcoming, why now? From the Chinese perspective, they have to see Trump as being on his way to impeachment. The polls tell them that, the Dems tell them that and the US Media tell them that.

 

So why are the Chinese not going to wait for impeachment? 

 

Sure, they could think Trump is vulnerable right now and will strike a deal, any deal (more favorable to Chinese desires), just to change the narrative. But this is not the low point of all this, articles of impeachment would be. 

 

As I have noted before, smart China observers have said the true worry of the Beijing government is their ability to keep their armed forces fed and happy. The relieve they have given on swine and soybeans, and the subsequent purchases, suggest they need the protein, badly. 

 

So much has been made by liberal Media about the waiting game being one the Chinese controlled, do they? 

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20 mins ago, tomkaz said:

After bluster from both sides, Trump just tweeted that he will meet with Chinese vice premier Li tomorrow in DC. After rumors overnight that the Chinese delegation was going to cut its US visit short, we get another China soybean purchase announced and Trump’s tweet about meeting Li tomorrow. 

 

Whether a “lite” deal or not, something might be happening on that front. Given the number of talking heads and pundits who claimed there would be no deal until Trump loses next year’s US election, this might come as a shock to some. 

 

Also, if you have not noticed, Pelosi has been talking about USMCA which suggests to me that she knows she can’t “do nothing” on that front for much longer. 

one thing is for certain the tariffs are not helping-our recent manufacturing numbers are worst in ten years-our exports are down as well

 

one of the things I hate about the current methodology is is Trump is not applying tarrifs uniformly(example apple products)-there are exemptions for certain products and certain companies while at the same time he is handing out billions in corporate socialism to his selected industries. If you want to put tariffs and truly go after China do it on every item and do not give out socialistic aide to some industries give it to none or all impacted by the tariffs.

 

 

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17 mins ago, tomkaz said:

 

So why are the Chinese not going to wait for impeachment? 

 

Sure, they could think Trump is vulnerable right now and will strike a deal, any deal (more favorable to Chinese desires), just to change the narrative.

Could? How can't this objectively be called the most vulnerable he's been during his Presidency. 

 

I have no idea about the outcome. But the Chinese (and others) have been able to watch his decision-making for a long time now (including decisions that IMO have been capitulations) and have a pretty good book on him. 

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China will not change it's trade stance till the election results are in.

 

If Trump wins again China will have to engage in meaningful negotiations.

 

Anyone want to bet that Democrats will have nothing to say about China meddling in our elections on behalf of the Democrats?

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3 mins ago, Gotcow? said:

Anyone want to bet that Democrats will have nothing to say about China meddling in our elections on behalf of the Democrats?

elected politicians or rank and file Democrats?

 

unlike you Republicans most Democrats I know have principles.....

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8 mins ago, superstriper said:

our recent manufacturing numbers are worst in ten years-our exports are down as well

 

Where is that coming from?

 

Are our exports down because of Boeing?

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2 mins ago, fish'nmagician said:

elected politicians or rank and file Democrats?

 

unlike you Republicans most Democrats I know have principles.....

All the Democrats you know still in grade school?

 

BTW, I'm not a Republican you knucklehead.       :p

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2 mins ago, Gotcow? said:

BTW, I'm not a Republican you knucklehead.       :p

your posts speak for themselves.......

you are an odd duck though,

when you are alone with your fellow Republicans you are a voice of reason,

as soon as a Lefty enters the conversation you become a talking point spouting cultist....

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1 min ago, fish'nmagician said:

your posts speak for themselves.......

you are an odd duck though,

when you are alone with your fellow Republicans you are a voice of reason,

as soon as a Lefty enters the conversation you become a talking point spouting cultist....

I can't help but call out the typical lefty over the top BS.

 

If that makes me a "cultist" I'll wear that badge proudly.

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