flyangler Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 ARE YOU TIRED YET? With all the distractions about the circus of the Dem debate, Biden‘s memory, Warren’s lineage, Harris’ voice sounding like Blasey-Ford, Beto’s gun grab, SSS being a pro-troll, etc., people seem to be ignoring other developments important to our country. NY Post: Trump’s starting to win big on controlling the southern border. On Wednesday, the Supreme Court ruled to permit the administration to go on refusing to accept applications for asylum from migrants who have passed through another country without being denied asylum there, while a case challenging this common-sense policy works its way through the courts. That comes on the heels of the court’s decision in July to allow Trump to use money from the defense budget to build the border wall. It was yet another significant victory for the administration’s initiatives and a sign that the left’s judicial guerrilla war that had been stymieing the president is starting to crumble. Expect liberal efforts to prevent Trump from overturning President Barack Obama’s executive orders that effectively granted amnesty to millions of illegals to meet the same fate. Fact is, despite the beating Trump has continued to take from the media about government tactics aimed at stemming the surge of illegal immigrants over the southern border, his policies have started to show signs of success. While no one expects Mexico to pay for Trump’s wall, it is doing something more important: using its resources to stop its people from crossing over into the United States illegally. It has, for example, reinforced security on its southern border and set up checkpoints on highways leading north, dispatching 21,600 police and troops across the nation in the effort. So far in 2019, the US Border Patrol has arrested more than 400,000 migrants from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras for crossing the border illegally. But only 4,300 Mexicans were caught doing so. It’s all strong evidence that, far from ignoring or rejecting Trump’s efforts to jawbone them into doing something to stop the flood of illegals, America’s most important southern neighbor is listening to him. Recall that Mexico stepped up actions to control the migrants in a bid to avoid tariffs Trump had threatened to impose. The message has also gotten through to those seeking to come to the United States illegally. “No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.” - Victor Davis Hanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotcow? Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 40 mins ago, tomkaz said: So far in 2019, the US Border Patrol has arrested more than 400,000 migrants from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras for crossing the border illegally. The message has also gotten through to those seeking to come to the United States illegally. I don't think that message has gotten thru at all. And I think that until Mexico secures their southern border they are blowing smoke up Trumps arse. But that's not to say real progress is not being made. Edited September 16, 2019 by Gotcow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nite_Bite_00 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Good shoot. Definitely working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makorider Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 News of this WILL affect the numbers trying to make the journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoonSurfer Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, tomkaz said: ARE YOU TIRED YET? With all the distractions about the circus of the Dem debate, Biden‘s memory, Warren’s lineage, Harris’ voice sounding like Blasey-Ford, Beto’s gun grab, SSS being a pro-troll, etc., people seem to be ignoring other developments important to our country. Talk about obsessed.... SallyGrowler and chessie_yaker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotcow? Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 mins ago, SilverSpoonSurfer said: Talk about obsessed.... Any comments about the actual subject of the OP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell master Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Gotcow? said: I don't think that message has gotten thru at all. And I think that until Mexico secures their southern border they are blowing smoke up Trumps arse. But that's not to say real progress is not being made. The minute we deny entry to the horde at our southern border will be the minute Mexico does the same.As long as they know we'll accept them they'll let them pass thru. PCstriper, bassackward and Fishy Fisher 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoonSurfer Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 5 mins ago, Gotcow? said: Any comments about the actual subject of the OP? I was in the subject, if don't you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron25 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Mexicans should be offended that Guatemalans and Hondurans don't think Mexico is a step up from those countries. Fishy Fisher 1 Sometimes, when you're in a dark place, you think you've been buried, but you've actually been planted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotcow? Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 mins ago, SilverSpoonSurfer said: I was in the subject, if don't you know... Yes, you were. The question still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makorider Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Does this clown have to **** in every thread? Fishy Fisher, Bullred44, ken r and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSpoonSurfer Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 7 mins ago, Gotcow? said: Yes, you were. The question still stands. Oh sorry, thought you were busting chops. The article states: "While no one expects Mexico to pay for Trump’s wall" Eh, yeah I was expecting them to pay. It is what was promised by Trump over and over. Not happy my tax dollars will go to something that was promised to not be out of pocket to the USA. Especially for a medieval wall that will do virtually nothing. The other thing is this wall reeks of socialism. Edited September 16, 2019 by SilverSpoonSurfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyangler Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Positive incentives and help offered along the way led to a drastic increase in those making the journey to violate our border. The concept of the “caravans” we pushed to make it sound organized, peaceable and quasi-legal. Negative incentives has helped to turn the tide. The Mexican federal and local governments stopped supporting the illegal migration. Mexican troops have hit the cartels and have sought to break up the coyote operations. If they are to be believed, they are seeking to stanch the flow at Mexico’s own southern border. The issue for the Mexicans is they do not want to be forced to accept the “first country asylum” deal where asylum seekers from south of Mexico cannot claim to be asylum seekers and go to the USA. They would have to stay and be processed in Mexico, possibly even stay there for extended periods. This is no bueno from Mexico’s perspective. “No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.” - Victor Davis Hanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyangler Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 mins ago, makorider said: Does this clown have to **** in every thread? He’s another gadfly, exists for the sole purpose to annoy people. Nite_Bite_00, Rickman, chessie_yaker and 2 others 5 “No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.” - Victor Davis Hanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotcow? Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 9 mins ago, SilverSpoonSurfer said: The other thing is this wall reeks of socialism. Huh? Fishy Fisher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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