dannyplug1

ROD HOLDER PROBLEMS

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I have a hobie with tracks that hold the Scotty gear head.  Unfortunately the head becomes loose after a fish or during the fishing trip.  I try to have the rod parallel to the boat and at a right angle to get depth and a good spread while I troll.  Hack attack makes a holder to but they claim it won’t move when a fish hits.   My two questions first is it your experience that is true?  Second will the yackattack version work in the same track that the Scotty works in.   Thanks Charlie 

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W.r.t. The YA mount, it is true but you have to use their track/base ... they have slots which the mount seats into to stop the spin ... check out the Mighty Mount. Good luck

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Firstly the yakattack track mounting holes are not compatible with pre existing holes for RAM/Scotty who share same mounting hole patterns.

 

secondly, the base itself has protruding nubs that seat inside the track slots prevent the base from rotating.

 

i am using yakattack base on RAM tracks... did not have a huge fish hit so couldn’t tell you on that point.

 

but if fish hits and it’s rotating the holder, maybe drag is set too high?

 

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If its the ball mounts they are not great for trolling, mine always loosen up, I have the new adjustable hobie rod holders and love them! they sit in the forward rod holders, i only clip the front so i can push them forward if in the way or they just pop out.

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not being familiar with that mount, I can't tell you exactly why it's coming loose but I've had experience with some other "screw tighten" mounts that had no rotation resistance.

My solution is a Scottie surface-mount into the track using an adapter plate I made.

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On 8/24/2019 at 7:16 AM, dannyplug1 said:

I have a hobie with tracks that hold the Scotty gear head.  Unfortunately the head becomes loose after a fish or during the fishing trip.

The one on the right will tighten when a fish hits .... the one on the left will loosen based solely on the thread direction in the tee nut...

 

They need to make these gear heads with a left handed & right handed version :dismay: 

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3 hours ago, BillZ said:

The one on the right will tighten when a fish hits .... the one on the left will loosen based solely on the thread direction in the tee nut...

 

They need to make these gear heads with a left handed & right handed version :dismay: 

 

Hadn't thought of that. Maybe dribble some purple Loctite on the threads? An odd design oversight to be sure, which would be eliminated by a second threaded collar, al la a lock nut.

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1 hour ago, ermghoti said:

 

Hadn't thought of that. Maybe dribble some purple Loctite on the threads? An odd design oversight to be sure, which would be eliminated by a second threaded collar, al la a lock nut.

Imo, you'd be better off doing something like gellfex did or only troll from the right side....

 

 I'm gonna guess the loctite will not hold.... too much leverage

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Yakattack vs Scotty/Ram

 

Yakattack base comes in two parts. The one on Right is shown with the lever lock opened that will allow the base to be removed from rails.  There is a smaller lever that you press and it lifts the base allowing for one hand rotation

Left shows the base that gets attached to rails.  The knob like thingy tightens the 1/4-20 bolt to fasten base to rail.  The protruding parts next to t-bolt is the part that seats inside the tracks and preventing it from turning.

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Here you can see the micro gears that engage and locks base together... multiple adjustment angles...

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Another view of the base

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Here you see the base mounted on YA track (right) and Scotty (left)

see how the protrusions engage inside the track

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YA below, Scotty/RAM on top

snug fit on Scotty/RAM tracks 

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Here view of the bottom side of tracks

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Here you can see that the mounting holes difference between YA vs Scotty/RAM

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And here err is the profile of the RAM track.

Scotty has a visible chamfer whereas the RAM has a round over edge... also RAM has t-bolt entry slot in middle of rail vs end on Scotty.

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hope it helps

 

Al

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40 mins ago, BillZ said:

Imo, you'd be better off doing something like gellfex did or only troll from the right side....

 

 I'm gonna guess the loctite will not hold.... too much leverage

Yes, maybe, but I certainly wouldn't want to start with blue, much less red. 

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I always found that if the trolling setup is in front of you, if a fish hits or you get snagged, the rod rotates towards your hand for a faster pick up...

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On ‎8‎/‎26‎/‎2019 at 10:52 AM, gellfex said:

not being familiar with that mount, I can't tell you exactly why it's coming loose but I've had experience with some other "screw tighten" mounts that had no rotation resistance.

My solution is a Scottie surface-mount into the track using an adapter plate I made.

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Gelflex could you put up more pictures of the holder?  and if you wouldn't mind what is the number of the scotty base you used. and lastly will it accommodate the same bases that go to the scotty gear head?

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16 hours ago, staktup said:

I always found that if the trolling setup is in front of you, if a fish hits or you get snagged, the rod rotates towards your hand for a faster pick up...

ohhh i can comment on this

 

 

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