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"I'm a C&R fisherman. I'm holier than thou!!!"

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I read this article in the paper too.  I don't know, I seem to remember hearing from friends and reading in the Press Herald this winter about people catching 10 to 20 lb tougue out of Sebago.  That sounds like some pretty good fish to me??? They must be eating something? 

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Very situational especially in an enclosed body of water, this is a touch example to show that catch n release is a “bad thing”, if you were catching and releasing invasives like pike or something that’s a different story 

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Mr red tide. Twenty pounds is a big togue yes !!! We need to protect them. You ask a good question about what they eat. It needs to be HEALTHY out there will be no big ones for future generations !!!

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On 8/12/2019 at 2:30 PM, Chalkdust said:

I did this a few years ago. You miss a lot of fish, but the fun in fishing poppers is watching them blow it up.

Not sure if I'm missing "many" fish, but I do know it's certainly a step in the right direction.  This time of year the "stealth" hits, ones that occur under water when I stop the popper and let is sink, are deep swallows, while the vast majority of hits are the explosive surface ones which are almost always a front hook hookup.

 

Since I've switched to the single tail hook, I've had only 3 deep hookings, 2 of which are on the roof of the mouth because I have the hook point oriented "up", and the one fish hooked around a gill arch took me all of 20 seconds to remove with my long pliers with no blood!!  All mouth hookings on the tail hook have been in the corner of the mouth, reminiscent of a circle hook hooking.

 

The secret here is to find open eyed single hooks with eyes that are offset 90° from the vertical plane, so the hook point will be up.  IMO the split ring solution with a normal single hook allows too much of a swing arc, something I'm not a fan of...

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On 8/11/2019 at 7:18 PM, Roccus7 said:

I'm migrating my poppers' tail hooks from trebles to singles.  Easier to get out...

.very true,try hookless fly at tail ,si glehook in belly...

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On 8/11/2019 at 7:41 PM, ken r said:

BTW- the OP title is disingenuous. I am a C&R fisherman 99.99% of the time and I really don't give a fuq whatever it is anyone else is doing. Just keep it legal.

 

I am certainly not holier than anyone else.

 

 

Couldn't have said any better.

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(insert sarcastic eye roll here)  This is the states response to a decade of public criticism for how our fisheries are being managed.  There are a couple watersheds where the state has failed ALL fisherman and more importantly our native species.  Pay close attention to Sebago Lake, it's regulations, and the politics involved with restoring a world class salmon fishery.  Maine Biologist Stu DeRoche introduced Togue into the lake by the thousands in the 1970's.  Salmon have struggled since.  It's the fisherman's fault for not keeping enough togue to balance the ecosystem? 

 

I know guys that killed in excess of 1000 togue legally through the ice in 2019 and that won't dent the damage introduction of the species had on the lake. 

 

The audio and visual from the state do not match.....

 

"We are managing Sebago lake to be a salmon fishery."- The same year a slot limit is implemented on togue and the bag on salmon is increased to two fish......

 

Sebago isn't the only body of water with these issues and the state has been called out by folks for poor fisheries practices.

 

What is unfortunate for DeRoche is his legacy is introducing a species that has consumed every forage species in the lake and made it nearly impossible for the Salmon to recover.  His best work was saving the salmon in the lake from DDT overuse in the region.  He put a stop to the use of DDT to control bugs and the salmon fishing restored to world class.

 

Yeah...it's all the C&R guys faults...come on...

 

I am a catch and release fisherman I could care less what the guy next to me is doing so long as it is legal.  That is his right that he paid for with his license fee.

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I always found it creepy that Monsato was the manufacturer of DDT. The guys that sue farmers when their seed spreads to the wind by neighboring farms. 

 

The togue in Sebago do seem to be getting bigger if you can get in the right areas. No issue for me because Id much rather jig for togue in winter then troll for salmon in spring. 

 

I still have a thing for Sebago even though there seems to be some that think its time has passed. 

 

Man will never be able to fully restore any lake/fishery they screwed up. We are only good at restoring cars and old paintings.

 

I like to C&R too. Togue is a prime example, who want to clean 20 togue at the end of the day, unless you have an extreme need. If they tasted like haddock there wouldnt be any left in the lake.

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5 hours ago, Sea Of Atlas said:

 

The togue in Sebago do seem to be getting bigger if you can get in the right areas. No issue for me because Id much rather jig for togue in winter then troll for salmon in spring. 

 

I still have a thing for Sebago even though there seems to be some that think its time has passed. 

 

Man will never be able to fully restore any lake/fishery they screwed up. We are only good at restoring cars and old paintings.

 

I like to C&R too. Togue is a prime example, who want to clean 20 togue at the end of the day, unless you have an extreme need. If they tasted like haddock there wouldnt be any left in the lake.

Outstanding fishery if you like fishing for togue.  I enjoy it many days too....for tor the sake of not having to clean/eat any, wasn't killing any.  

 

Killing all I can these days.  Found a few folks that smoke them.  They'd make great lobster bait.

 

Sad to open them up and find cigarette filters, rocks and sometimes nothing in their stomachs....

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Outstanding fishery if you like fishing for togue.  I enjoy it many days too....for tor the sake of not having to clean/eat any, wasn't killing any.  

 

Killing all I can these days.  Found a few folks that smoke them.  They'd make great lobster bait.

 

Sad to open them up and find cigarette filters, rocks and sometimes nothing in their stomachs....

 

There's other fisheries like this.  The article and quotes around C&R weren't shocking.

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My son lives down in Virginia and took me out to catch some beautiful native brookies down there. I found the regulations for Shenandoah National Park to be pretty interesting, the clear intent being to reduce/eliminate the non-brookie population;

Shenandoah National Park

Only single-point hook artificial lures may be used—no bait (see artificial lure definition). On those streams open to harvest, the creel limit is 6 trout per day with a 9-inch minimum size for brook trout and a 7-inch minimum size for brown and rainbow trout. On all other streams open to fishing, catch and release regulations apply. The release of any brown trout back into any Park stream is prohibited and brown trout less than 7 inches must be disposed of within the Park but away from Park streams, roads or trails. This is an effort to limit the impacts of brown trout on the native brook trout populations. Contact the Shenandoah National Park at 540-999-3500 for the annual list of streams open to harvest.

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