ken r Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 mins ago, stormy monday said: Do people tie on circles? I do. You have to be very careful with portions, and realize you can't tie all pattern types. That said, I've NEVER gill/gullet hooked a bass with a circle hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy monday Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 min ago, ken r said: I do. You have to be very careful with portions, and realize you can't tie all pattern types. That said, I've NEVER gill/gullet hooked a bass with a circle hook. Cool! I've switched to a short shanked tarpon hook and have similar results, better than the standard 3407 length shank. I was looking at one kind of circle, maybe an Owner mosquito, and it looked like it had an offset that might impeded it swimming straight. It was a small hook, was going to use it for shad...Are yours offset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken r Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 No. No offset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Of Atlas Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 15 hours ago, Roccus7 said: The Portland Press Herald has an interesting article on C&R Salmon and Togue's bad impact on the fishery in lakes like Sebago, Why catch-and-release is killing, not conserving, Maine fisheries. It's worth reading. Granted it's about fresh water ecosystems, but they may be a moral here for striped bass fishermen too. Here's my favorite snippet: The widespread practice of catch-and-release in waters across Maine has thrown many ecosystems out of balance, creating a vicious cycle: an overabundance of fish that leads to a lack of forage, resulting in scrawny catches that no one wants to keep. And, so, the fishermen throw them back – usually under the assumption that they’re helping. <<Click Bait>> Yeah the moral is don't introduce non native species that will out compete the native species and lead to a decline. [State of Maine 1970's] Now it's the evil C&R fisherman that don't want to eat 30 togue that lead to a decline?! How about the effect of DDT manufactured by Monsato that was heavily sprayed back in the day that decimated the species. Nothing to see here folks its the recreational fishery that did it. 55555s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousam Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 The problem is trouble hooks and CHUNKED bait !!! All of us friends we can do it. I see guys at Pine Point and my favorite river who GET it. Not naming river so no spot burn. Pine Point is POPULAR fishing spot. We have to protect the fisheries once and for all !!! See you on the flats guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken r Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Mousam said: The problem is trouble hooks and CHUNKED bait !!! All of us friends we can do it. I see guys at Pine Point and my favorite river who GET it. Not naming river so no spot burn. Pine Point is POPULAR fishing spot. We have to protect the fisheries once and for all !!! See you on the flats guys Your "favorite river" lol. Yes Mousam, more so than even your handle itself, you have just spot burned. I've fished the area and I know just how little real estate there is to fish at your "favorite river". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbourque Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Mousam said: The problem is trouble hooks and CHUNKED bait !!! All of us friends we can do it. I see guys at Pine Point and my favorite river who GET it. Not naming river so no spot burn. Pine Point is POPULAR fishing spot. We have to protect the fisheries once and for all !!! See you on the flats guys Ban trouble hooks and chunked bait!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titleguy Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 This article has zero to do with C&R mortality; it is strictly about the over-population of popular sport fishing waters ( and introduced species). If you are concerned about C&R mortality, keep them wet, not bait, no trebles, use appropriate sized gear and don't fish if the water is too warm. Recreational C&R mortality will be greatly reduced by restricting methods that cause the greatest mortality. If you catch a keeper, and keep it, you are done for the day- no more high grading. I would ******* LOVE a grave blanket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkdust Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 19 hours ago, Roccus7 said: I'm migrating my poppers' tail hooks from trebles to singles. Easier to get out... I did this a few years ago. You miss a lot of fish, but the fun in fishing poppers is watching them blow it up. (*member formerly known as 'Fairplay') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyK Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Nbourque said: Ban trouble hooks and chunked bait!! Bait shops should be banned from selling bait. They could rename themselves Preservation of Species Emporia & Untroubled Hook Suppliers. Crozzbow, chris koltz and Nbourque 3 Marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titleguy Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, ken r said: I do. You have to be very careful with portions, and realize you can't tie all pattern types. That said, I've NEVER gill/gullet hooked a bass with a circle hook. I tie everything on circles mustad C71 ss. Edited August 12, 2019 by titleguy I would ******* LOVE a grave blanket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken r Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 mins ago, titleguy said: I tie everything on circles mustad C71 ss. I tie a ballyhoo pattern that requires a long shank to imitate the beak. Another one I can think of is a squid pattern I tie. Just not enough room for me on a circle hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titleguy Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) Check out the mustads- circle streamer- it is the same shank length a regular mustad streamer hook. The fly pictured in a 2/0 hook with 3.5" puglesi brush. These hollows give you a good idea of how long the shanks are. The upper fly is on a regular circle/octopus Edited August 12, 2019 by titleguy I would ******* LOVE a grave blanket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcity Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 hours ago, titleguy said: f you are concerned about C&R mortality, keep them wet, not bait, no trebles, use appropriate sized gear and don't fish if the water is too warm. Good points Salinity a factor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy monday Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 hours ago, titleguy said: I tie everything on circles mustad C71 ss. Looks perfect, gonna order up a batch for the fall run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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