ken r Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RiverRaider said: Did we ever figure out exactly what the intent of this thread was? Frank* wants us all to know he worships the devil? Maybe along those lines. fjr419 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRaider Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ken r said: Frank* wants us all to know he worships the devil? Maybe along those lines. He does seem the type to be perfectly honest with you A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. – William James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 I think most of the Devil/Hell stuff is religious propaganda trying to scare people into showing up every week, putting money in the plate and trying to be a good person. I mostly look at the difference between good and bad, Jesus and the Devil as selflessness vs. selfishness. Jesus was all about doing good and helping people, the Devil wasn't so much about doing good things, just helping yourself at the expense of others. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRaider Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 20 mins ago, fish'nmagician said: I think most of the Devil/Hell stuff is religious propaganda trying to scare people into showing up every week, putting money in the plate and trying to be a good person. I mostly look at the difference between good and bad, Jesus and the Devil as selflessness vs. selfishness. Jesus was all about doing good and helping people, the Devil wasn't so much about doing good things, just helping yourself at the expense of others. A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. – William James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 what part do you "require" me to explain to you? Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinambition Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Satanism is self worship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 25 mins ago, fishinambition said: Satanism is self worship. That's a nice boiled down version of what I wanted to say. I don't view it as people who act gratuitously evil, I see it more as someone who would do great harm to someone else, if it benefited themselves even slightly. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltydawg Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 If you need someone to give you a list of core values to abide by, you may be beyond hope - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 mins ago, saltydawg said: If you need someone to give you a list of core values to abide by, you may be beyond hope you sound like an atheist. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken r Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 mins ago, saltydawg said: If you need someone to give you a list of core values to abide by, you may be beyond hope ^^^^ This. I'd edit maybe to are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltydawg Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 mins ago, fish'nmagician said: you sound like an atheist. Only if you believe the “rules and tenets” were derived from a deity. Most—if not all—are the creations of man. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 min ago, saltydawg said: Only if you believe the “rules and tenets” were derived from a deity. Most—if not all—are the creations of man. I don't see how that matters. if you need religion and it's rules to give you core values it applies to your statement. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltydawg Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 min ago, fish'nmagician said: I don't see how that matters. if you need religion and it's rules to give you core values it applies to your statement. But religions are certainly not the only places that supply people and rules to live by, and even the religious ones are man-made. Boy Scouts, Kiwanis Club, the Red Cross, etc. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRaider Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, fish'nmagician said: what part do you "require" me to explain to you? Satan is real or not real? It sounds like your saying yes he's real after saying he's propaganda? A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. – William James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 mins ago, RiverRaider said: Satan is real or not real? It sounds like your saying yes he's real after saying he's propaganda? Satan is not real, most Christians don't really understand what is in the bible, most of the heaven and hell stuff that people talk about has no basis in the bible. but if Satan is a cautionary tale, I am just expressing my take away of what it actually means. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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