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Bull sharks in Massachusetts

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2 mins ago, bassturds said:

I thought a bull shark attacked people in the early 1900s in NJ and that’s what started the whole JAWS thing

 

I was just going to bring that up.    Just googled up the Wikipedia page:  Jersey Shore shark attacks of 1916  

 

Five people attacked, four killed.

 

They also know that Bull sharks can swim way up rivers into fresh water.   

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From that article... for your amusement:

 

No further attacks were reported along the Jersey Shore in the summer of 1916 after the capture of Schleisser's shark. Murphy and Lucas declared the great white to be the "Jersey man-eater".[38] Skeptical individuals, however, offered alternative hypotheses. In a letter to The New York Times, Barrett P. Smith of Sound Beach, New York wrote:

Having read with much interest the account of the fatality off Spring Lake, N.J., I should like to offer a suggestion somewhat at variance with the shark theory. In my opinion it is most unlikely that a shark was responsible, and I believe it much more likely that the attack was made by a sea turtle. I have spent much time at sea and along shore, and have several times seen turtles large enough to inflict just such wounds. These creatures are of a vicious disposition, and when annoyed are extremely dangerous to approach, and it is my idea that Bruder may have disturbed one while it was asleep on or close to the surface.[39]

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2 hours ago, bassturds said:

I thought a bull shark attacked people in the early 1900s in NJ and that’s what started the whole JAWS thing

Some controversy about that. Originally the said GW, but some modern day scientists say it was probably bull shark(s).

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2 hours ago, pogie_boy said:

From that article... for your amusement:

38] Skeptical individuals, however, offered alternative hypotheses. In a letter to The New York Times, Barrett P. Smith of Sound Beach, New York wrote:

Having read with much interest the account of the fatality off Spring Lake, N.J., I should like to offer a suggestion somewhat at variance with the shark theory. In my opinion it is most unlikely that a shark was responsible, and I believe it much more likely that the attack was made by a sea turtle. I have spent much time at sea and along shore, and have several times seen turtles large enough to inflict just such wounds. These creatures are of a vicious disposition, and when annoyed are extremely dangerous to approach, and it is my idea that Bruder may have disturbed one while it was asleep on or close to the surface.[39]

Horse hockey! :)

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On 7/2/2019 at 11:14 PM, MakoMike said:

Some controversy about that. Originally the said GW, but some modern day scientists say it was probably bull shark(s).

The low salinity in Mattawan Creek, where the attacks took place, also suggests bull shark. Some scientists also now believe that the fatal Mattapoisett attck circa 1936 was a bull shark. Buzzards Bay water temps in late July are usually well north of 70 Fahrenheit. 

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On 7/2/2019 at 0:45 PM, jettyjockey18 said:

A Bull's main diet is fish (surprisingly), although they can eat just about anything...

I think bulls are second only to tiger sharks when it comes to being swimming garbage cans that will eat anything. Tigers regularly attack sea turtles, and even an occasional albatross, around some Pacific atolls. 

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18 mins ago, Ditch Jigger said:

I think bulls are second only to tiger sharks when it comes to being swimming garbage cans that will eat anything. Tigers regularly attack sea turtles, and even an occasional albatross, around some Pacific atolls. 

Re: swimming garbage cans

 

Jaws shark autopsy

 

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They've gone as far up the Mississippi as Illinois and made it into Ohio. Wonder how many swimmers were never seen again because of them.

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I’ve heard rumors of bull sharks swimming up the CT river as far as the Holyoke dam following shad and stripers in the spring... I have my doubts because of water temps but figure it’s not impossible. 

The seal coming up this spring was kinda charming... bull sharks not so much.

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23 hours ago, Ditch Jigger said:

The low salinity in Mattawan Creek, where the attacks took place, also suggests bull shark. Some scientists also now believe that the fatal Mattapoisett attck circa 1936 was a bull shark. Buzzards Bay water temps in late July are usually well north of 70 Fahrenheit. 

can you quote a source about the Mattapoisett attack possibly being a bull shark ?   Thanks

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34 mins ago, FizzyFish said:

can you quote a source about the Mattapoisett attack possibly being a bull shark ?   Thanks

This should help, this is the only data I could find on this subject that lists a credible scientist or dr  

 

http://www.sharkattackdata.com/attack/united_states_of_america/massachusetts/1936.07.25

Edited by Dthfrmabove

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3 hours ago, BrianBM said:

Pity ...  back to encouraging the GWs to get it on with Viagra-laced herring.

???  Can you explain what this means? I don’t get it.....

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not really, I know about the attack, I was asking for a reference that says it possibly was a bull shark.

that report states it was white shark.     the report is below.

 

Shark attack at Hollywood Beach, just above Mattapoisett Harbor, Buzzards Bay in Massachusetts, United States of America

GSAF Case #1936.07.25

Date25 Jul 1936

CountryUnited States of America

AreaMassachusetts

LocationHollywood Beach, just above Mattapoisett Harbor, Buzzards Bay

ActivitySwimming crawl stroke

NameJoseph Troy, Jr

SexMale

Age16

InjuryFATAL, finger severed, thigh bitten He died during the surgical amputation of his leg

Time15h30

SpeciesWhite shark (identified by Dr. Hugh Smith)

Investigator or SourceB. R. Tilden, M.D.; NY Times, 7/26/1936, p.2; E.W. Gudger (1950); V.M. Coppleson (1958), pp. 150 & 253; H.D. Baldridge, p. 35

Fatal?Fatal

Incident TypeUnprovoked

 

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