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Did a “Misreading” of Trump by the Chinese Lead to the Current Trade War?

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Did a fundamental misunderstanding of Trump lead to the trade war with China? 

 

No one was ready for Trump, and that included foreign governments back in 2016. And, given his unprecedented style and thinking, all of their past experiences with any US government was not instructive. Worse, given the all-knowing US Media and punditry gave Trump no chance of winning, these governments did not commit any  resources to developing a detailed profile of Trump. As Pretty Woman said, big mistake. 

 

So, as I have said here and elsewhere that the biggest problem our foreign allies and enemies have is their continued misunderstanding of Trump. From the beginning back in 2016, foreign governments were forced to rely on Media reports, academics, "former government officials" and others since their Intel agencies lacked copious info on Trump. It has been argued here that they should have read Trump's books and ignored the so-called experts. I am pretty sure that goes back to his first dealings with NATO and the EU in 2017. Was it that hard to understand Trump's negotiating process if you read Art of the Deal? Clearly many foreign governments didn’t, or didn’t believe what they read. 

 

Making things worse, you had former Obama officials, as well as NeverTrumpers on the right, telling foreign governments that Trump was inept and that they should just wait him out. John Kerry is the poster child for this effort with Iran, EU countries and anyone else who will listen to Lurch. 

 

So now the South China Morning Post tells us: 

 

CHINESE GOVERNMENT REALIZES IT BLEW IT WITH TRUMP.  China tries to bridge gap in knowledge about the US following criticism that misreading of Donald Trump helped trigger trade war: Move follows complaints that US president’s policies took academics and government by surprise. .... When Trump started the still-unresolved dispute last July, Chinese academics faced heavy criticism that they had underestimated the US president and his administration’s resolve to confront Beijing.

 

Took academics and government by surprise? Well, to be fair, you can see why after 8 years of Obama they’d be shocked that a president actually did what he said he was going to do.

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No, it wasn’t a mis-reading of President Trump.  The trade war started because China listened to Pelosi and Schumer instead of Trump.  Chuck and Nancy need to go back to school and re-learn who has the Constitutional authority when it comes to international affairs.

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They were and still are taking advantage of us

The trade war with China, it had to be done, and needs to be finished

 

The flow of counterfeit goods from China on the internet is crazy. 

A guy just bought an $800 metal detector from a website that was supposedly a legitimate company based in Fla - turned out to be a company in China turning out counterfeit Minelab metal detectors, and this is becoming more and more common. You want cheap fake Yeti coolers ? Just go on the internet and order all you want !

 

It's just another piece of the whole Chinese world view, that they are above us and have the right to cheat and take advantage of everyone else. And our government allowed them to do just that - until Trump

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Mr. Trump is a business man, that's his thing. The previous presidents were: all talk intellectuals who don't believe talk is cheap. Actions always speak louder than words. 

Did they misread him? Probably. The Chinese came to the table with their own agenda, they prolly didn't hear what Mr trump had to say. Now they know the deal!:howdy:

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China plays the long game very well. Unfortunately the Libs here are not willing to experience a little short term pain to correct the trade imbalance. . 

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I doubt they truly misread him. I think they are wanting to keep their little gig going and figured they could if they pretended to be confused. Trump should hit them very hard and let them know that it’s time they started minding the rules, or start selling their stuff to Africa.

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1 hour ago, Gotcow? said:

They still don't know what to make of him and neither do we.

 

He's mercurial and a loose cannon with a short fuse. 

I’ll give you he pops off when things don’t go his way. BUT, thus far, he has collected himself before overreacting. 

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Some act as if this is a new issue, yet it was written about two years ago. 

POLITICO: 

How China Misread Donald Trump

The president gave Beijing a huge opening on North Korea, which it bungled. Now it's time for a new relationship.

Jack Shafer. July 06, 2017

China seems not to have appreciated how fortunate it was that Trump’s China policy has focused overwhelmingly on North Korea, rather than on its unfair trade and investment policies and its aggressive military expansion in the Asia-Pacific. For China’s interests, this has meant free rein on most other issues of concern—an extraordinary opportunity that it has squandered by not responding more effectively to what Trump wanted on this single front. Now, Trump is ratcheting up the pressure on China on multiple fronts at once.

Trump seems rightly to have determined that China isn’t doing enough on North Korea.

 

 

 
 

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Truce in U.S.-China Trade Battle as 2 Rivals Seek Breakthrough

OSAKA, Japan (AP) — President Donald Trump and China’s Xi Jinping agreed to a cease-fire Saturday in their nations’ yearlong trade war, averting for now an escalation feared by financial markets, businesses and farmers.

Trump said U.S. tariffs will remain in place against Chinese imports while negotiations continue. Additional trade penalties he has threatened against billions worth of other Chinese goods will not take effect for the “time being,” he said, and the economic powers will restart stalled talks that have already gone 11 rounds.

“We’re going to work with China where we left off,” Trump said after a lengthy meeting with Xi while the leaders attended the Group of 20 summit in Osaka.

While Trump said relations with China were “right back on track,” doubts persist about the two nations’ willingness to compromise on a long-term solution. Among the sticking points: The U.S. contends that Beijing steals technology and coerces foreign companies into handing over trade secrets; China denies it engages in such practices.

The apparent truce continues a pattern for Trump and Xi, who have professed their friendship and paused protectionist measures, only to see negotiations later break down.

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