Steve in Mass

"Health Care is a Basic Human Right"

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Um, no senator, sorry, it is not.

 

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are basic Human Rights.

 

Beyond that, the rights you reserve are listed in the Bill of Rights (The first 10 Amendments in that thing that is called, you know, The Constitution, that document you are proposing to destroy).

 

But those are things that the government cannot DENY you, not things they have to PROVIDE you.

 

Please think about that. It makes the world of difference on whether this country survives or not.............

 

 

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Health care, or access to basic medical services for human health, should be a codified right in the United States.  Unfortunately, in the United States, we have a health insurance system and not a health care system that treats everyone equally regardless of race, religion, economic standing, culture, etc..

 

You cannot have "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" if you are not healthy or if you will suffer from an illness that basic  "health care" would fix.  

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, KnewBee said:

You cannot have "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" if you are not healthy or if you will suffer from an illness that basic  "health care" would fix.  

 

Funny, the men that wrote those words didn't have that luxury, nor would they had endorsed what you said even if they did.

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5 mins ago, Gotcow? said:

Does anyone get turned away at the hospital if they need medical care?

kinda what I was thinking,

it practical terms it's treated (to an extent) as a right,

 

you get hit by a car,

the ambulance is coming,

they don't check for bank balances or insurance cards first.

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Interesting how the dems in the debate last night used healthcare and health insurance interchangeably.

 

As if they wanted the rubes to think the insurance companies should be responsible for providing healthcare for everyone.

 

 

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I don't know what you can call a human right, are there any?

 

There's US rights, like Steve pointed out, and I agree with him.

Some people think everything is a right these days, health, education, income, housing - the list goes on.

 

And let's face it, no one is denied healthcare in this country - that would be illegal.

Anyone can buy healthcare.

So, it's not really that healthcare is a right, it's that free healthcare is a right, right - is that what they mean?

Well, nothing is really free, so it's really healthcare that someone else pays for is a right - is that what they mean?

 

Well then, that's a resounding no.

 

In fact, the argument could be made that the healthcare someone else pays for that you are providing, is actually impinging on the right to liberty of the person who is forced to pay it.

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7 mins ago, fish'nmagician said:

kinda what I was thinking,

it practical terms it's treated (to an extent) as a right,

 

you get hit by a car,

the ambulance is coming,

they don't check for bank balances or insurance cards first.

Yes there is compassion in emergency medical situations. But I have personally witnessed on more than one occasion families walking into an emergency room receiving treatment because someone "wasn't feeling well" and could be treated in an "Emergency Room" [at no charge?]

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I only watched briefly last night. I was watching when this topic was discussed.

one of the moderators, I think Lester  Holt asked “ how many of you would end your private insurance policies and use only the, proposed, Govt policy?” 

 

2 grand standers raised their hands, the idiot DeBlaiso and Warren. ie the 2 loudest proponents of this ridiculousness.

 

the other 8 sat on their hands!

 

This is a fringe issue. It has no legs IMO. It’s a dumb talking point, HOPING, to convince a swath of even dumber people to vote for them

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3 mins ago, sandflea5 said:

Yes there is compassion in emergency medical situations. But I have personally witnessed on more than one occasion families walking into an emergency room receiving treatment because someone "wasn't feeling well" and could be treated in an "Emergency Room" [at no charge?]

 

yyyyyyup

which again comes at a cost that someone pays,

which might actually cost less if there was universal coverage blah blah blah.

 

there is a LOT of profit in the insurance industry,

and they have PR firms pushing fear and hate and the notion that any change is going to cost you more,

and someone is going to cheat you

and you are going to pay for someone else.

 

it's happening already,

and insurance in general is socialist in nature,

 

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1 hour ago, KnewBee said:

Health care, or access to basic medical services for human health, should be a codified right in the United States.  Unfortunately, in the United States, we have a health insurance system and not a health care system that treats everyone equally regardless of race, religion, economic standing, culture, etc..

 

You cannot have "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" if you are not healthy or if you will suffer from an illness that basic  "health care" would fix.  

 

 

 

 

 

i started a thread about who should be in charge of that stuff.

 

you should check it out.

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7 mins ago, fish'nmagician said:

how does health care work for retired people right now?

Some of it is covered by what they have already paid into the system their entire working life, which you may find hard to believe,and some, or all of the rest, is paid by additional insurance that comes out of their own pocket. As if you did not know that already. Don't insult the integrity of the majority of our senior citizens.

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