saltydawg Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, fish'nmagician said: and what freedom is that? but that doesn't even address what I asked. The freedom to choose my insurer, my plan, my providers...all disappear with mandated Medicare for all. I have lived in a country with socialized healthcare and it sucks - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Da Fish Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 15 mins ago, JimG said: You ever notice that people who work the least are the most entitled and think they work the hardest. Human nature I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo2 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 22 mins ago, saltydawg said: The freedom to choose my insurer, my plan, my providers...all disappear with mandated Medicare for all. We are already there. My employer only offers one plan, take it or leave it. Thanks Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimG Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I recently had to listen to an in law nyc public school teacher talk about how hard it is to find time for herself because she doesnt get home until 4pm... plus winter break, spring break, summer break. Apparently she orders dinner every night because she doesnt have time to prepare food. So she also went on about her pay not being fair and how expensive it is to live..(despite ordering take out every night) She is very liberal and in a permanent state of outrage.... on some union posters and TV commercials too supporting her union. The disconnect from reality by some of you liberals is astounding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagerhead Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, fish'nmagician said: yeah, BB was pushing the same line of crap. blue states are where tax revenues come from, red states is where they go. we know who is sucking hard on the Government teet. Do you want to reconsider your post? From the Rockefeller Institute Based on 2018 tax data. Edited June 27, 2019 by Lagerhead I love when we make way past the breakwater at first light and head out, there's nothing better, the whole rest of the world just melts away for me. (*edited - member formerly known as 'windknot') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltydawg Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 2 mins ago, woowoo2 said: We are already there. My employer only offers one plan, take it or leave it. Thanks Obama. But you can shop any private plan you want. I do. They want them all eliminated. I want the CRO to make money in exchange for providing me a high-quality service Edited June 27, 2019 by saltydawg - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBHarvey Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, fish'nmagician said: yeah, BB was pushing the same line of crap. blue states are where tax revenues come from, red states is where they go. we know who is sucking hard on the Government teet. still peddling that same lie huh? pathetic. I've done stuff I ain't proud of, and the stuff I am proud of is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_L Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 41 mins ago, fish'nmagician said: it's not free, it's a choice as to how we want to spend our money, do we want to outspend EVERYONE on the military? do we want to keep giving the uber rich more and more? or do we want to reinvest in our future an infrastructure. California already gives its money to the uber rich in the tech sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dena Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 57 mins ago, Nicky Da Fish said: FIFY, re: our current deficit spending during a strong economy. What spending are you willing to cut? Military? I will match you dollar for dollar, welfare state, and defense? ridenfish 1 Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudsy Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Little said: to get all this stuff the leftists are promising the rubes they will get. But its not a chart where the red line is a quarter inch above the blue line, its like "not enough money in the whole world times ten" enough. They're campaign promises by career type politicians Do you really think they mean to honor them ? Honestly ? The only people who believe this BS are the same idiots that believed Obama was actually going to give them free phones and pay their mortgages I just wanta play everyday despite small nagging injuries -- and go home to a woman who appreciates how full of crap I truly am. ~ Crash Davis Social Distancing since 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudsy Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) And hypothetically, even if they did mean to honor them (LOL), would anything more than governmental gridlock result ? Not one of these things would get through congress Edited June 27, 2019 by Sudsy I just wanta play everyday despite small nagging injuries -- and go home to a woman who appreciates how full of crap I truly am. ~ Crash Davis Social Distancing since 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnmagician Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 10 mins ago, EBHarvey said: still peddling that same lie huh? pathetic. LOL are you going to show a graph with one component of tax dollars and pretend it means something. federal tax dollars LEAVE blue states, and get sucked up in Red states. I'm not talking about ONE component and ignoring the rest, I am talking about the amount of Federal taxes paid by the residents of a state, and the amount of Federal tax dollars the State and people in the State receive. Red states Benefit Blue states pay. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimG Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 min ago, fish'nmagician said: LOL are you going to show a graph with one component of tax dollars and pretend it means something. federal tax dollars LEAVE blue states, and get sucked up in Red states. I'm not talking about ONE component and ignoring the rest, I am talking about the amount of Federal taxes paid by the residents of a state, and the amount of Federal tax dollars the State and people in the State receive. Red states Benefit Blue states pay. Why would you even make this point? Do you know or is it just something snarky? You support a large federal govt that shares other peoples money. Normal people would feel stupid complaining about the exact expected outcome of what they support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagerhead Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 50 mins ago, fish'nmagician said: i'm really not. the profit an insurance company makes comes from somewhere right? where do you think it comes from? Do you honestly think it's valid to compare a private company's profit to the cost of government administration? I love when we make way past the breakwater at first light and head out, there's nothing better, the whole rest of the world just melts away for me. (*edited - member formerly known as 'windknot') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudsy Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 The thoughts of a closet socialist I just wanta play everyday despite small nagging injuries -- and go home to a woman who appreciates how full of crap I truly am. ~ Crash Davis Social Distancing since 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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