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ODM DNA vs Airwave Elite

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What are you gaining from the ODM over the Airwave Elite for the extra $100? Where is ODM manufactured? is the ODM lighter?

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I've used the Genesis and airwave elite. Feel and finish. The airwave elite is a great rod for the money but feels mushy in hand. Good pencil and minnow rod. Not my favorite for a bucktail. The airwave also has some poor quality flexcoat that cracks deeply after little use. I'm biased though -- wouldn't trade my Genesis for anything.

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59 mins ago, xjclint said:

I've used the Genesis and airwave elite. Feel and finish. The airwave elite is a great rod for the money but feels mushy in hand. Good pencil and minnow rod. Not my favorite for a bucktail. The airwave also has some poor quality flexcoat that cracks deeply after little use. I'm biased though -- wouldn't trade my Genesis for anything.

this is the type of feedback i'm looking for thanks ... keep it coming, how mushy is an elite vs a DNA, Genesis is a line up correct? 

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I love my 9'6"elite, but I agree it's not much of a bucktail rod. I had the 11 foot and 10.5 foot, those were great Bucktailing rods. The genesis however is something else....

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1 hour ago, ThrowinPlugs said:

I love my 9'6"elite, but I agree it's not much of a bucktail rod. I had the 11 foot and 10.5 foot, those were great Bucktailing rods. The genesis however is something else....

So what makes the longer elite better for buck-tales? Is it the casting ability are the longer rods stiffer offering better feel?

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For me the biggest difference was in bucktailing. My NEX1 is an absolute dream to bucktail with, and it handles the light stuff better. They've somehow made sensitive, yet very strong and lightweight rods. I also feel that the ODM works pencil poppers better in rougher conditions. ODM is a worthwhile investment, but you can rest assured that the Airwave Elite is going to serve you well should you decide to go that route. 

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2 hours ago, nfnDrum said:

So what makes the longer elite better for buck-tales? Is it the casting ability are the longer rods stiffer offering better feel?

MUCH stiffer in my experience, but forgiving with down to one ounce bucktails.

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12 hours ago, nfnDrum said:

What are you gaining from the ODM over the Airwave Elite for the extra $100? Where is ODM manufactured? is the ODM lighter?

Since you asked about the ODM DNA & T Airwave Elite, each of which I own in the 9ft / 9.5ft versions I'll chime in.

 

As stated previously the ODM rods are faster (tip action) and feel lighter in hand then the 9.5 ft. Airwave Elite (note the TAE is a half foot longer). Also the ODM DNA is similar to the Genesis that  xjclint loves ... but the Genesis is a lighter feeling rod compared to the ODM DNA (they are not the same rods)... I think the Genesis is a better rod (because lighter is better to me) than the DNA ... and it also costs $100 more.

 

So between the DNA & the TAE as fishing tools ... if you like more of a progressive action in you rod ... a more flexing tip & upper rod section (for pencil popping lets say), you should go with the Tsunami Airwave Elite. The "mushy" comment really means to me, that the tip section on the TAE is not as crisp (or fast) as the ODM DNA rod. Which might be useful / better appreciated when throwing rubber Sand Eels (or other soft plastics).

 

The faster tip DNA is better for metals, buck tails ... and Super Strike Little Necks, etc. IMHO.

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Lets see Now I've got 9'6" ELITE, 9' ODM DNA and a 10' Genesis on my list ... I'm not sure how i feel about the 50/50 split on the genesis ... I've been liking the idea of 70-30, 60/40

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If it's worth anything I prefer 50/50. The flat spot is not at all noticeable with my Genesis and with 70/30 you don't gain much for portability. If you are going to fold the seats down anyway you might as well get a one piece. With modern graphite and builds, you would be pretty hard pressed to feel the flat spot. Think of fly rods, 4 piece and they bend to the butt. They only thing I prefer a one piece for is weight savings and having the top half never spin. Good builds solve the second problem pretty easily once seated right. Cheap builds spin.

 

If I were you id look for a used Genesis 9' (I've found two for 220 bucks each on sol) or get the DNA. My rod can do everything except throw 3 oz. But that's when I switch to something bigger anyway.

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46 mins ago, xjclint said:

If it's worth anything I prefer 50/50. The flat spot is not at all noticeable with my Genesis and with 70/30 you don't gain much for portability. If you are going to fold the seats down anyway you might as well get a one piece. With modern graphite and builds, you would be pretty hard pressed to feel the flat spot. Think of fly rods, 4 piece and they bend to the butt. They only thing I prefer a one piece for is weight savings and having the top half never spin. Good builds solve the second problem pretty easily once seated right. Cheap builds spin.

 

If I were you id look for a used Genesis 9' (I've found two for 220 bucks each on sol) or get the DNA. My rod can do everything except throw 3 oz. But that's when I switch to something bigger anyway.

I plan on trolling the BST.

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Have both the air wave and odm DNA, I like the DNA alot better for throwing 3/4 - 1 1/4 bucktails and soft plastics. The action in the tip and sensitivity are awesome.

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I own almost all TAE surf series (8'6" to 11'), and 9' and 10' genesis, 9'6" and 11'6" frontier X. TAE is absolutely good for the money, and they are very versatile on lures they can handle. I'd rather compare it with the FX series since they both are 70/30 splits. The FX have stronger backbones than the TAE, which means they are stiffer. They are better at handling heavier lures as well as bucktails. when you have the right reel setups, fighting a big fish with the FX is more pleasurable.

Genesis on the other hand are much lighter rods with softer backbones. they are better on playing with lighter lures and poppers. I have used both the 9'6" FX and 10' genesis to pop the same popper, the genesis gives a much better trail than the FX does, and it requires a lot less effort to pop the rod. Also, I like to use the 9' genesis on sub-1-oz lures (tins, bucktails, swimmers, and poppers), it performs better than the 9'6" TAE, whose sweet-spot is around 1.5 - 2oz.

It really depends on what kind of lures you are going to use. If you want one rod for a lot of jobs, then the TAE for sure; if you want it for a specific job, then pick the ODM. Yes, it's a lot of money but it worth it.

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On 5/27/2019 at 10:08 AM, SnoozeFishing said:

Have both the air wave and odm DNA, I like the DNA alot better for throwing 3/4 - 1 1/4 bucktails and soft plastics. The action in the tip and sensitivity are awesome.

good info

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