Dan Tinman

Forward Balanced Bucktails Again!

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On 2/26/2020 at 6:25 AM, bbfish said:


Sure man that sounds great!   Can we give it a shot in 3, 4, and 5 oz?  And would you be ok to add some longer hairs and feathers to give them a longer profile as well?

As promised here's the first results.  

The first two pictures are Forward Balance Ultra Minnow styles tied with deer hair in different color schemes. A lot more colors and combinations is possible.

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Next is one tied in the conventional manner with Fisher.  That's a fine stranded dressing material.  Very commonly used especially in situations where longer hair is desired.

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Next is a 6 oz head tied in the MoJo style with long Fishair.  A 6" Paddle Tail Shad is shown as a suggested addition.

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Last picture is just a size comparison of the sizes from 2 oz to 8 oz.

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It occurred to me that these could be used as trolling rigs like the common MoJo's.  Single or tandem is possible.

I haven't done pricing on these yet.  Kind of waiting to see if there's any interest.

I'll have these with me at the Asbury show this Sunday, March 8 in case anyone wants to get a better look at them.  None are for sale yet.

 

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6 hours ago, Dan Tinman said:

As promised here's the first results.  

The first two pictures are Forward Balance Ultra Minnow styles tied with deer hair in different color schemes. A lot more colors and combinations is possible.

fullsizeoutput_109e.jpeg.c77dfb81d0267cc0c4d5af83601231bf.jpeg

fullsizeoutput_109f.jpeg.3e874a8945b3ea95f08d41a82f3903a4.jpeg

Next is one tied in the conventional manner with Fisher.  That's a fine stranded dressing material.  Very commonly used especially in situations where longer hair is desired.

fullsizeoutput_10a0.jpeg.891256410861a24f4fa4cedc32fb2f82.jpeg

Next is a 6 oz head tied in the MoJo style with long Fishair.  A 6" Paddle Tail Shad is shown as a suggested addition.

fullsizeoutput_10a2.jpeg.9dcfd11f1c5a57b8c525c5edcedfc3a4.jpeg

Last picture is just a size comparison of the sizes from 2 oz to 8 oz.

fullsizeoutput_10a3.jpeg.7cf8636687ff7b24d9751ef77d0df1a2.jpeg

It occurred to me that these could be used as trolling rigs like the common MoJo's.  Single or tandem is possible.

I haven't done pricing on these yet.  Kind of waiting to see if there's any interest.

I'll have these with me at the Asbury show this Sunday, March 8 in case anyone wants to get a better look at them.  None are for sale yet.

 

 

Looks pretty good my man!  I should be by asbury I'll swing by and take a look!  

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Just a heads up. Tinman Tackle will not be at the show after all.  On the very persuasive advice of a doctor (my daughter) and because of my advanced geriatric state (75 YO) and a compromised respiratory system (COPD) I've decided to err on the side of caution and sit this year out.  I'm not normally overly cautious about things like this but this time .............

See you all next year.

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I have an order on the larger side I'm hoping you can help me with. I completely understand if it takes time. Its for both forward balancing and smiling bill bucktails but I figured I would post it all here.

 

These forward balancing bucktails

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And these smiling bills 

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I'm hoping for 

 

       Forward balance - White ¾ oz (x3) = $4.50 ea ($13.50)

       Forward balance - White 1 oz (x6) = $4.75 ea ($28.50)

       Forward balance - Chartreuse 1 oz (x2) = $4.75 ea ($9.50)

       Forward balance - wine 1 oz (x2) = $4.75 ea ($9.50)

       Forward balance - White 1 ½ oz (x6) = $5.00 ea ($30.00)

       Forward balance - Chartreuse 1 ½ oz (x2) = $5.00 ea ($10.00)

       Forward balance - Wine 1 ½ oz (x2) = $5.00 ea ($10.00)

       Forward balance - White 2 oz (x3) = $5.50 ea ($16.50)

       Forward balance - Chartreuse 2 oz (x2)  = $5.50 ea ($11.00)

  

      Smiling Bill - White 1 oz (x6) 1 oz = 4.75 ea ($28.50)

      Smiling Bill -  Chartreuse 1 oz (x2) 1 oz = 4.75 ea ($9.50)

      Smiling Bill - Wine 1 oz (x2) 1 oz = 4.75 ea ($9.50)

      Smiling Bill - White 1 ½ oz (x6) = 5.00 ea ($30.00)

      Smiling Bill -  Chartreuse 1 ½ oz (x2) = 5.00 ea ($10.00)

      Smiling Bill - Wine 1 ½ oz (x2) = 5.00 ea ($10.00)

      Smiling Bill - White 2 oz (x4)  = 5.50 ea ($22.00)

      Smiling Bill -  Chartreuse 2 oz (x2)  = 5.50 ea ($11.00)

      Smiling Bill - Wine 2 oz (x2)  = 5.50 ea ($11.00)

      Smiling Bill - White 3 oz (x2)  = 6.50 ea ($13.00)

      Smiling Bill -  Chartreuse 3 oz (x2)  = 6.50 ea ($13.00)

 

I think the total is $306 plus paypal and shipping fee's but my math definitely needs to be checked :howdy:

 

I hope I laid that out so it's easy enough to understand. Thanks.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Sandbar1 said:

I have an order on the larger side I'm hoping you can help me with. I completely understand if it takes time. Its for both forward balancing and smiling bill bucktails but I figured I would post it all here.

 

These forward balancing bucktails

5ce369cd528e4_Bulletheads.JPG.6a4c4a9acd296bc9fe88ff6a5489a9d0.JPG

 

And these smiling bills 

IMG_3145.JPG.f47cceb24bc30cbab6bacb903a2ef770.JPG

 

I'm hoping for 

 

       Forward balance - White ¾ oz (x3) = $4.50 ea ($13.50)

       Forward balance - White 1 oz (x6) = $4.75 ea ($28.50)

       Forward balance - Chartreuse 1 oz (x2) = $4.75 ea ($9.50)

       Forward balance - wine 1 oz (x2) = $4.75 ea ($9.50)

       Forward balance - White 1 ½ oz (x6) = $5.00 ea ($30.00)

       Forward balance - Chartreuse 1 ½ oz (x2) = $5.00 ea ($10.00)

       Forward balance - Wine 1 ½ oz (x2) = $5.00 ea ($10.00)

       Forward balance - White 2 oz (x3) = $5.50 ea ($16.50)

       Forward balance - Chartreuse 2 oz (x2)  = $5.50 ea ($11.00)

  

      Smiling Bill - White 1 oz (x6) 1 oz = 4.75 ea ($28.50)

      Smiling Bill -  Chartreuse 1 oz (x2) 1 oz = 4.75 ea ($9.50)

      Smiling Bill - Wine 1 oz (x2) 1 oz = 4.75 ea ($9.50)

      Smiling Bill - White 1 ½ oz (x6) = 5.00 ea ($30.00)

      Smiling Bill -  Chartreuse 1 ½ oz (x2) = 5.00 ea ($10.00)

      Smiling Bill - Wine 1 ½ oz (x2) = 5.00 ea ($10.00)

      Smiling Bill - White 2 oz (x4)  = 5.50 ea ($22.00)

      Smiling Bill -  Chartreuse 2 oz (x2)  = 5.50 ea ($11.00)

      Smiling Bill - Wine 2 oz (x2)  = 5.50 ea ($11.00)

      Smiling Bill - White 3 oz (x2)  = 6.50 ea ($13.00)

      Smiling Bill -  Chartreuse 3 oz (x2)  = 6.50 ea ($13.00)

 

I think the total is $306 plus paypal and shipping fee's but my math definitely needs to be checked :howdy:

 

I hope I laid that out so it's easy enough to understand. Thanks.

 

 

Your layout is fine and your math is correct.  PM on the way.

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On 5/20/2019 at 10:43 PM, Dan Tinman said:

We all know about the qualities of a "forward balance" bucktail for surf and other shallow water fishing. Here's a few for consideration.

 

First is the classic Bullet Head style.  These are tied with generous amounts of deer hair to create a slower drop and help them "float" over rocky bottoms.  A little less prone to hanging up in rocks they can also frequently be "finessed" out when they do get snagged.  Because of this they are popular on jetties and over rocky bottoms.  A good addition would be pork rind, Otter Tails or a variety of soft plastic to add action.  Sizes up to 4 oz. and colors as shown.  Specials are done if possible. Here's pricing and pictures.

1/2 oz = $4.25 ea

3/4 oz = $4.50 ea

1 oz = $4.75 ea

1 1/2 oz = $5.00 ea

2 oz = $5.50 ea

3 oz = $6.50 ea

4 oz = $7.25 ea

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Next is the long time favorite Banana Head.  A more streamlined design than the bullet head makes them a little less prone to catching seaweed and grass in the water.  The head shapes lends itself to adding long trailers like pork rind or soft plastic worms or eels. Because of the head shape and less hair dressing these will drop faster and cut current a little better than the bullet head.  These are a good choice for rivers and inlets.  Sizes up to 3 oz. and colors as shown.  Ideas for specials are always accommodated if possible.  Prices and picture.

1/2 oz = $3.75 ea

3/4 oz = $3.85 ea 

1 oz = $4.15 ea

1 1/2 oz = $4.75 ea

2 oz = $5.25 ea

2 1/2 oz = $5.50 ea

3 oz = $5.80 ea

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Last in this thread is the Teardrop or "canal" bucktail.  These provide a longer profile than the bullet head and have less hair dressing so they work a bit better in a current.  Sizes up to 4 oz. and colors as shown.  The larger sizes can be tied with or without the feathers shown in the picture.  As with the other forward balance heads a added trailer is a good idea. Pork rind, Otter Tails or soft plastic are all good choices.  Sizes up to 4 oz and colors shown but specials are Ok too. Picture and pricing.

1/2 oz = $3.75 ea

3/4 oz $3.85 ea

1 oz = $4.15 ea

1 1/2 oz = $4.75 ea

2 1/2 oz = $5.75 ea

4 oz = $6.50 ea

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General notes.

First paint coat is heat cured powder for durability.

Accent colors are sprayed vinyl and either epoxy or clear powder coated for toughness.

Hooks are Mustad, 2x strong, forged and tin plated for saltwater use.  In some cases the new Mustad 2x strong black nickel hook will be used.

Dressing is deer hair and wraps are epoxy coated.

Shipping is extra.

       Thanks for looking and good luck fishing!

            dan 

 

Hi Dan,

 

I'd like to buy the following: 

 

4 white bullet head bucktails, 1 oz.

1 white bullet head bucktail, 1.5 oz

2 white bullet head bucktail 3/4 oz

 

Thanks

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2 hours ago, joe0306 said:

Hi Dan,

 

I'd like to buy the following: 

 

4 white bullet head bucktails, 1 oz.

1 white bullet head bucktail, 1.5 oz

2 white bullet head bucktail 3/4 oz

 

Thanks

PM on the way.

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Evening Dan,

 

Would like to order.

 

4- 3/4 oz  banana chartreuse

4- 3/4 oz banana pink

4- 1 oz banana white

4- 1 1/5 oz banana white

 

Thanks...

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9 hours ago, miegle said:

Evening Dan,

 

Would like to order.

 

4- 3/4 oz  banana chartreuse

4- 3/4 oz banana pink

4- 1 oz banana white

4- 1 1/5 oz banana white

 

Thanks...

PM on the way.

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24 mins ago, miegle said:

 

Hello Dan.

 

I did not get any PM yet.

Sorry.  My mistake.  I typed it up and never hit send.  You should have it now.

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