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Meridian line recommendations

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Hi all,

 

Looking for 8 weight Meridian line recommendations for the flats of Cape Cod in June. I fish an Airflo Ridge on my 9 weight rod, but looking for something that can load more quickly, as those stripers cruise pretty fast.

 

Still thinking an intermediate line. Wondering if I can use tropical lines.

 

 

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Pat

 

The solution is to sharpen up your cast rather than seek a gear driven answer.

 

The crude way is to over line your rod with a std AAFTM line or buy one of these short head as in 30 feet two lines over like. RIO OB short.

Make sure your rod can handle them if you go that route.

 

Then you have crash down issues of a heavier than required line. Might as well fish a ten weight std line then which will allow you longer range casts when required,

It is not all under the rod tip stuff.

 

Speed of cruising  fish is relative to how fast you can get a cast away and accurately. Is  a very  fast cruising fish interested in eating even.

 

Airflow lines tend to be a bit overweighted so check your head weight on your current lines. They should do the job.

 Close range fast presentation fishing is never going to be easy. It’s something that requires a lot of practice and effort to get good at.

Enjoy.

mike

Edited by Mike Oliver

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I fully acree Mikes opinion! Approaching casting thinking rod "load" does not improve casting and usually it make Tailing Loops bigger. We accelerate line and make rod bend just enough that line path comes straight. When longer cast is needed we haul in the end of casting stroke while rod straightens which accelerates line more. When that is not enough we need to cast heavier line using stiffer rod.

 

When fishing different lengths of line out of rod tip I use line which has about 10ft front taper, then some level and then very long rear taper. So the line loop behaves rationally, straightens smoothly and lands to water softly. Such head also "loads" short length out of rod and shoots decent even when not whole head is out of rod tip when line alteady tapers there. Long rear taper allows casting a very long length of line out of rod tip without overloading the rod when very long cast is needed.

 

My favorite Taper is Scientigic Anglers Trout Taper which comes few different textures and prices. Its head is so long that it might be too long for overall use but SA has similar tapers which heads are shorte. I have not bought those but I would trust the data SA has in their web page. I have two old SA tropic (bonefish) lines which I have used during normal summer sunny weather which for example CC on May can have. When line needs stretching straight I don't pull it between my hands. I route it behind something solid and pull both ends. I think this method has less danger to break coating loose from the core.

 

Airflo CAST has similar taper but they are very heavy. WF10F 50ft head is 450gr. I also like Barrio GT90 taper but they are lighter trout sizes and they are moderately priced because they are sold direct from UK.

 

Esa

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Pat, 

I have a 9wt Meridian and use an Airflo Striper (8 foot tapered tip, 40 ft  340 grain head) among other lines.  I know what you are talking about with respect to getting enough line out of the tip to properly load the rod.....it seems that I always have to do 1-2 more false casts than when using a line with a shorter, more compact head.

 

Since you're asking for line recommendations for a meridian, I can tell you that I have recently lined up a Wulff Bermuda Triangle Taper (9wt line, the all light blue colored and not two tone version) and that line works great.  People I have spoken to say that the line works fine in the Northeast in the summertime, being that it's a tropical line.  This is a floating line however and you said that you are looking for an intermediate.  If you are wading the flats, this floating line should work fine, since bass look up and you can always used a weighted fly.  However, if you are dead set on an intermediate, then I would suggest a Rio Striper line.  I've never cast this line on my Scott before but the taper is pretty progressive like the Wulff BTT and the grain rating looks like it will load your 8Wt Meridian just fine; it's got a 30 foot head so you should be able to get that head out of the last guide and fire off quick shots.  Hope this helps. 

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This is all great information. Yeah I had the Rio Striper Floating on my 9, then had to cut it off after it got stuck around a buoy and I wasn't willing to risk my life for a fly line. I fished it on the Vineyard flats and it worked well, but it was a day when there was just a bit of disturbance and cloudiness from a storm. Enough distractors (cloudiness, wind) to settle the fish, but not so much we couldn't see them. The Ridge Striper in general has a much gentler lay-down. I seriously considered the Rio Intermediate, as noted by Mike above, and also in my experience, those lines just come down heavy, especially with large crab imitations. The CC bay flats can be crystal clear, and I have spent more than a few hours trying to fool a larger fish on those flats. 

 

When I picked up the rod, I got a great deal on a Airflo Tropical Punch, though I have heard it won't perform great in the 60-70 degree range when I plan to be in Cape Cod. People seem to like that with the Meridian. It comes in at 240 grains with a ~40 foot head. Any experience with Airflo Tropical lines in early June?

 

The Ridge Striper comes in at 290 grains, so I was worried the Meridian might not get full performance out of it because it is so heavy.

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Oh, gotcha.  Yes, the Airflo ridge does have the benefit of laying down softer on the water due to the long head and progressive taper.   If you need a line that lays down softly, maybe sticking to flies that are lighter and are more easy to cast?  Think sand eel vs crab.  

 

As for tropical lines, Herb, who goes by HL hear says that he uses the Wulff Bermuda Triangle Taper line on the cape in June.  It may perform differently than the Airflo Tropical Punch. 

 

As far at the Ridge striper line is concerned, I think you'll be fine with the 290 grain on your 8wt. I use the 340 grain on my 9wt meridian and my rod loads perfectly and I get a perfectly formed loop when all 40 feet of the head is out of the tip.  The tip on that blank is strong to handle a higher grain rating that the AFTMA standard without letting the loop collapse.  

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Pat

 

You might want to consider fast sinking line. 

 

Wind will muck a floating line about and floating lines are more visible to,fish.

They throw shadows onto the bottom to.

 

The Intermediate is pretty slow to sink. 

 

Something to seriously consider

 

mike

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The meridian has a little softer tip with a progressive action compared to many salt geared/fast rods. You can use a light grain weight weight.

 

i wouldn’t load it up with a ton of grains

 

The scientific anglers grand slam line has an aggressive taper BUT with out the grain weight of many other lines 

marketed this way. 

 

This is would be a recommendation for sight fishing, which sounds like what you are describing 

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