fishnmagician Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, chumfish said: Chicago has one third the population and twice the gun violence of NYC. I think chicago is an island of tough gun laws in a sea of right wing nonsense, NYC has more of a buffer zone of tough gun laws. Eggy 10-13 LAA 7-14 50-50 2-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeyewilly Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Tinman, My thoughts exactly. Granted , it’s a compleatly different world , however , the premise is the same . Is Early American History still taught in primary school ? Or has it been dropped to make time / space for more “Progressive” courses ? Bill J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayotica Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 Only people in control of people with guns would have the audacity to say no one "Needs" guns, which is exactly why we do need guns. LBI SurfRat 1 An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamlet Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 "No one needs guns" is a statement that really means this... "We, who have guns and want to rule you... think that none of the people we rule need guns" I won't tolerate your intolerance, because I hate hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayotica Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, D_L said: Exactly Except for when they do! An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Ackwards Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 hours ago, fish'nmagician said: I'm thinking nut jobs buying guns is a good place to start. That's one of the things the NRA wants to see happen. fishinambition Posted June 30 ·After a decade and a half of trolling and disrupting the website, frank's finally fed up with Tim's bull**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfinator Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 We need another round of magazine bans...that'll learn those crazy people LBI SurfRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReelinRod Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, fishinambition said: Nonsense. An armed poplulation could never stand up to a govt. 11 hours ago, D_L said: Exactly Your comments are really a condemnation of the unarmed population. Assuming your position to be true, my question would be directed to the people standing on the sidelines (or cheering the killing of Americans fighting the government) . . . What would the nation look like after the government has won and killed everyone willing to fight it? Do you envision things would just return to "normal" and the government who just bulldozed a few million citizens into mass graves would hold an election the following November and IF it was held, abide by it? I can't believe that, I believe "government" would be a brutal dictatorship at that point and would have no reason to alter itself. If you believe some semblance of "democracy" would be restored, please explain to me WHY a government willing to kill all who oppose it, would listen to anything the proven compliant, obedient, gutless and impotent people who remain around to be "governed", have to say? . Edited May 2, 2019 by ReelinRod bassackward and DMacLeod 2 You can’t truly call yourself “peaceful” unless you are capable of great violence. If you are incapable of violence, you are not peaceful, you are just harmless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_L Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 34 mins ago, ReelinRod said: Your comments are really a condemnation of the unarmed population. Assuming your position to be true, my question would be directed to the people standing on the sidelines (or cheering the killing of Americans fighting the government) . . . What would the nation look like after the government has won and killed everyone willing to fight it? Do you envision things would just return to "normal" and the government who just bulldozed a few million citizens into mass graves would hold an election the following November and IF it was held, abide by it? I can't believe that, I believe "government" would be a brutal dictatorship at that point and would have no reason to alter itself. If you believe some semblance of "democracy" would be restored, please explain to me WHY a government willing to kill all who oppose it, would listen to anything the proven compliant, obedient, gutless and impotent people who remain around to be "governed", have to say? . I'm all for the armed citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReelinRod Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 mins ago, D_L said: I'm all for the armed citizen. That makes your affirmation of fishinambition's statement all the more curious. . You can’t truly call yourself “peaceful” unless you are capable of great violence. If you are incapable of violence, you are not peaceful, you are just harmless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 13 hours ago, fishinambition said: Nonsense. An armed poplulation could never stand up to a govt. We did in 1776! Remember the ammo shortage in 2008 thru 2010? Obama put Guns and Ammo in several Federal Departments that never were armed before? That poorly conceived tactic blew up in his face! A million more Americans joined the NRA. And women began showing up at gun ranges looking for lessons and guns for their personal protection! On his first primary tour Obama said he would make a Citizens Army as big as the US ARMY when he got elected! There is footage on both of his attempts to neuter the 2nd Amendment, The Trump Administration has pulled the fangs of those Departments Armed by Obama! Our Volunteer Armed Forces Are Loyal to the Constitution! God Bless those American Patriots! The all took a stance “to protect this nation from is Enemies, Foreign and Domestic”, TheKnot, fishinambition and LBI SurfRat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMacLeod Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 hours ago, ReelinRod said: That makes your affirmation of fishinambition's statement all the more curious. . I believe it was sarcasm. As was Ambitions post. D_L 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBI SurfRat Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 19 hours ago, fish'nmagician said: because violence and guns are two separate issues. if a LOT of people live in a small area, there will be more crime, it's a no brainer.... not sure what your point is. So then you agree it's not THE GUN? Why are the people in those doing "more crime"? What's the cause of "more crime"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakalolo Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Perhaps the urban areas are heavily populated by animals with a high propensity for violent behavior and criminal activity. LBI SurfRat and ridenfish 2 IN FAVOR OF COMMERCIAL FISHING AND SURFING THE NORTH SIDE MAY THE RICH GET RICHER!! FISH ARE FOOD!! UA MAU KA EA O KA AINA IKA PONO O HAWAII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeDave Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 18 hours ago, fish'nmagician said: I think chicago is an island of tough gun laws in a sea of right wing nonsense, NYC has more of a buffer zone of tough gun laws. So want to be sarcastic with this statement. 27 mins ago, LBI SurfRat said: So then you agree it's not THE GUN? Why are the people in those doing "more crime"? What's the cause of "more crime"? 10 mins ago, pakalolo said: Perhaps the urban areas are heavily populated by animals with a high propensity for violent behavior and criminal activity. These two I would suggest that liberal education, no father in the home or possibly the influx of illegals. There's no need to blow smoke up my ass as a lengthy preamble to your insulting another person. It doesn't fool anyone and it doesn't garner any favor. TimS ---Tim To Otshawytsha October 16 2018 #3956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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