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Does anybody here on sol know If the Odm evolution rod is the first rod to use boron inside of a surf rod?

 

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im curious as well, i have a old evergreen rod made from boron. is boron material better than carbon? i can feel its stiffer comparing carbon.

any advantage for boron material ?

 

 

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Boron in fishing rods is not a new thing.

shimano used it in their steelhead special long rod.

I have one that has to be 30 years old.

they were from 7 feet up to 9 I believe.

they had a titanium reel seat and no foregrip,the rod has a bulge as you near the bottom end which make the rod easy to hold.

If I remember correctly it was called a fightin' rod.

really nice rods,they should modernize them a bring them back.

they were ahead of their time I say.

they had strands of boron running the full length of the rod from but into the tip.

once I almost slammed the rod tip fully in a door,i caught it but it cracked the blank under inside the tip.

I took the tip off and had to cut off an inch,it was not easy since the boron was very hard and the mini hacksaw got dull trying to do this.

took 2 new blades to get that 1/8th of an inch thick piece to cut off.

there were other rod makers that had boron in their blanks but,names escape me right now.

I'm not sure but,Kunnan may have been one of them.

but,to actually answer your question,I know nothing about the rods you mention but,wanted to share the info with anyone here.

HH

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53 mins ago, Tourstage said:

im curious as well, i have a old evergreen rod made from boron. is boron material better than carbon? i can feel its stiffer comparing carbon.

any advantage for boron material ?

 

 

boron does indeed make for a stiff rod,also gives it a ton of lifting power.

not sure of it's durability although I would say it may shatter rather than snap off.

boron is a low abundance element in our solar system.

the best known deposits are found in turkey.

it is a metalloid element which explains why it was hard to cut my blank.

HH

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15 mins ago, Heavy Hooksetter said:

boron does indeed make for a stiff rod,also gives it a ton of lifting power.

not sure of it's durability although I would say it ay shatter rather than snap off.

boron is a low abundance element in our solar system.

the best known deposits are found in turkey.

it is a metalloid element which explains why it was hard to cut my blank.

HH

semi-metal material, i found on google

 

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I grew up hearing older fishermen complain about boron rods cracking and breaking. They were out of vogue when I started fishing.

Have they improved a lot?

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I had boron rods in the early 80's. freshwater they had incredible load and un load throwing spoons.

One chip and they blew up. If they could solve that reliability they where superior .

 

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Boron is formed on a very fine tungsten fiber, it will seriously tear up your hands or anything else it comes in contact with, infections run rampant in injuries so special PPE is needed to use it. Our laws allow anyone to call their rod a boron, super high modulus rod, whatever if you even have very small amounts of the material because all rods are composites, they all have epoxy or some other kind of bonding agent in them.

With all the special handling I suspect durability was not the only issue, everyone most also meet a preferred price point.

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3 hours ago, Fishy4335 said:

I would stick with graphene instead of boron composite rods!

I agree with Fishy, graphene is bring way more to the table as far as power and durability 

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4 mins ago, BrianBM said:

Winston used boron in fly rod blanks in the past. 

Still do. A Winston boron rod will set you back about $900.00 or so depending on model but then so will a saltwater Sage rod, again models vary.

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