Kanine Kleenup Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 Would be better for the fish if there was no fishing allowed... one day last summer we counted 12 floaters in buzzards bay.... Kones1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_G Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, b-ware said: Figure out a way to turn fishermen into sportsmen...……….. Mr Bernie is right. The Sultan of Sluggo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoMike Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Gwiz said: The Feds do control the canal and its waters. If they wanted to make it catch and release it only takes a phone call The feds may control the canal and its waters but the State controls the fish in those waters. ====Mako Mike====Makomania SportfishingPt. Judith, RI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateD Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 4 hours ago, clambellies said: Never happen, and rightly so. If you put the Canal as a catch & release, that opens up the door for the next place to be catch & release. What's next? Outer Cape, Block Island, VA/MD? Montauk? yes.yes.yes.yes. Deep Hole and PantherheadzSI 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogie_boy Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) With the committee finally declaring the overfished status, I think it would be the most opportune time to make a drastic change and then dial back next year. If you set a limit of 1 fish @ say 40" it would give thousands of fish a second and third chance at spawning and make it easier to spot poachers with undersized fish. a keeper fish also woulnd't fit nicely into the little barrels that certain groups use to ferry bass away from the canal near the cribbin and such. We already have regs on the books specifying catch and release and different creel limits on different waters in the state. Who is to say we can't have different regs and creel limits for certain beaches or shorelines? If certain groups knew that they can't keep fish legally from a body of water, and being seen ferrying away ANY fish could mean losing their fishing gear, maybe it will disuade them from fishing there at all and will save even a couple hundred fish that get to spawn another day? Edited April 22, 2019 by pogie_boy and another thing!!! DITCH TROLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambellies Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 53 mins ago, Kanine Kleenup said: Would be better for the fish if there was no fishing allowed... one day last summer we counted 12 floaters in buzzards bay.... Floaters are a sign of a problem, I'll admit to that. But, if your worried about floaters, you should follow a dragger around sometimes. We've all seen the pictures of that wasteful carnage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambellies Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 17 mins ago, nateD said: yes.yes.yes.yes. The problem with that is, with little enforcement available the easiest solution for the Feds is no fishing period. We've seen plenty of examples of how the Feds have used birds & other 'red herrings' to force people off of Fed lands. Are you in favor of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_G Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 Another problem that's been ingrained into fishermen from an early age is, keeping the biggest fish. Not just stripers. But all fish. Please explain how you get a guy new to the sport to release a 45" fish? We've all seen it. It just doesn't happen. Even if they already have a couple in the trunk of their car, they'll still justify a reason to keep another. The Sultan of Sluggo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateD Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 18 mins ago, clambellies said: The problem with that is, with little enforcement available the easiest solution for the Feds is no fishing period. We've seen plenty of examples of how the Feds have used birds & other 'red herrings' to force people off of Fed lands. Are you in favor of that? In favor of banning fishing? no. In favor of catch and release only for stripers everywhere? yes. I don't care what the enforcement is, poachers are always going to poach, at least they will be easier to spot. CNR only would dissuade a lot of people from even fishing for them. How would it even change how they enforce the rules? They wouldn't need more people, they would just do the same rounds they do now. How did they enforce the moratorium? Poachers were likely still taking fish then, but it still rebuilt the stocks. Deep Hole and Mastatwista 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateD Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 22 mins ago, bob_G said: Another problem that's been ingrained into fishermen from an early age is, keeping the biggest fish. Not just stripers. But all fish. Please explain how you get a guy new to the sport to release a 45" fish? We've all seen it. It just doesn't happen. Even if they already have a couple in the trunk of their car, they'll still justify a reason to keep another. A huge problem, I've been trying to teach my Dad and uncle the big ones are what you want to let go, but it just doesn't compute. PantherheadzSI and Deep Hole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ba Ba Buoy Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 If the ACOE wants to ban, limit, or declare C&R fishing only, they can. It is their sandbox, you are there at their behest. If Fishing, biking, or walking, becomes a threat to safety they can and will make any adjustments they deem needed. Bass may be the state's fish but it is ACOE land. Boats aren't allowed to fish the canal and if they are caught by the canal patrol it's a $500 fine. The same can apply to shore. "Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after." ~Henry David Thoreau (member formerly known as MV Bluefish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CcCstriper89 Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 The ACOE would outright ban fishing if they did anything; not make it a C&R. What reason would they have to care about how many fish are kept? The growing trend of guys thinking they have the right to launch plugs at boats traversing the canal because they are "too close" or putting their surface feed down is going to make it much easier for a decision to be made if the time comes. McNizzles 1 The Best Day to go fishing is any day that ends in Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quack Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, bob_G said: I would mind because my wife and I enjoy eating it. I only kept three last year. You kept 3 and it would bother you as a c&r only spot? Sounds like you'd rather not be slightly inconvenienced Edited April 22, 2019 by quack R.R. Bridge Fisher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quack Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 5 hours ago, SalmonAndStriper Stalker said: People will still poach them anyways so it wouldnt even matter Poachers are fewer than the total number fishing. So it would help. And poaching would be way more obvious R.R. Bridge Fisher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonAndStriper Stalker Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 Most of it is inexperience. Canal is to easy for any Joe smo to catch a fish and not knowing the proper way to unhook and handle a fish leads to a lot of the mortality. Every once in a while I get a bass that takes a plug deep and into the gills and that fish wont make it so I keep it but that is the toll of doing business. We are in a game where we put sharp objects in a fishes mouth. But being educated about proper fish handling will help a lot more than c&r. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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