Striper46 Posted October 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, BillZ said: Bionneo power BLF-1240AS would be 20 bucks cheaper & has 40 amp continuous & 80 amp for 5 seconds...... was looking at these b4 i found the valance u1-12rt's They have cell balancing circuitry, etc but not sure if its as advanced as the valance's bms.. Curious; why you looking for batteries, something wrong with yours? No mine are fine. My friend is in the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunN4Lo Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Striper46 said: would these be a good replacement for the Valence we use? with the price sky rocketing for a used valence battery i was looking for a better solution then buying a used battery for $350. WOW.... Valence are up to $350? I bought mine for $110 a piece. If thats what they have gone up to, these guys would be my next choice. They are very active in a lot of kayak forums and everyone has nothing but praise for them. A 55ah or double 30ah would be a little cheaper too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunN4Lo Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Striper46 said: would these be a good replacement for the Valence we use? with the price sky rocketing for a used valence battery i was looking for a better solution then buying a used battery for $350. WOW.... Valence are up to $350? I bought mine for $110 a piece. If thats what they have gone up to, these guys would be my next choice. They are very active in a lot of kayak forums and everyone has nothing but praise for them. A 55ah or double 30ah would be a little cheaper too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunN4Lo Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 I just installed a little tiny light weight pwm to go with my light weight battery. And its remote controlled too! It fits in a Home Depot electrical box, that I have mounted on top of my motor shaft, after I removed the factory head. It makes for a nice compact set up. Greatest thing since man canned beer. Are Youtube vids allowed here? I will post this thing in operation if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striper46 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 hours ago, FunN4Lo said: WOW.... Valence are up to $350? I bought mine for $110 a piece. If thats what they have gone up to, these guys would be my next choice. They are very active in a lot of kayak forums and everyone has nothing but praise for them. A 55ah or double 30ah would be a little cheaper too cool i'll check them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striper46 Posted October 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 nice! i see guys post youtube vids all the time but not sure if its allowed or not. I'd love to hear more about this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r111 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) On U1-12RT. Prices fluctuate, keep checking Ebay. Under $100 is a fair price, but I scored some @ $75 or so. If you have a connection to a hospital or can visit a recycling place - these get thrown out by 100s. Us saving these from dumping grounds is a service to the environment. As for alternatives, there are 12V Lifepo4 60AH units, with charger thrown in, brand new, for $300. Ebay. These are blue units, do a search, cant miss them. Ideal capacity, good for 99% outings. ~6Kg. I carry 2x40AH, for ~80AH total. Overkill most of the time, but a single 40AH is pushing it. I feel 60AH is the sweet spot 2 of U1-12RT fit under the center hatch of PA14. Out of the way & sight , lower COG for better stability etc. ############## High-capacity 12V60AH LiFePO4 battery parameters: Continuous discharge current of 60A Instant 80A Capacity: 60Ah Charging voltage: 14.5v Rated voltage: 12v Size: 27.5*16.5*7.5CM Weight: 6.3kg Edited October 23, 2019 by r111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunN4Lo Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 58 mins ago, r111 said: On U1-12RT. Prices fluctuate, keep checking Ebay. Under $100 is a fair price, but I scored some @ $75 or so. If you have a connection to a hospital or can visit a recycling place - these get thrown out by 100s. Us saving these from dumping grounds is a service to the environment. As for alternatives, there are 12V Lifepo4 60AH units, with charger thrown in, brand new, for $300. Ebay. These are blue units, do a search, cant miss them. Ideal capacity, good for 99% outings. ~6Kg. I carry 2x40AH, for ~80AH total. Overkill most of the time, but a single 40AH is pushing it. I feel 60AH is the sweet spot 2 of U1-12RT fit under the center hatch of PA14. Out of the way & sight , lower COG for better stability etc. ############## High-capacity 12V60AH LiFePO4 battery parameters: Continuous discharge current of 60A Instant 80A Capacity: 60Ah Charging voltage: 14.5v Rated voltage: 12v Size: 27.5*16.5*7.5CM Weight: 6.3kg I have looked at those blue batts. The 12awg wiring concerns me. Reviews on the batts are for gates and CPAP machines. Have you run one on a trolling motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobigblue Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 wth happened to the supply of used valence batteries. i sold a minnkota recently to a local guy and recommended he check out the u1 12rt batteries, how awesome and light and cheap they are used, next day he asked me for a link to one and i checked out ebay and felt bad ever saying anything about them being cheap LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r111 Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 No, no experience with this particular type. Seems to be common bat for ebikes, when wired for 24V or 36V . If I didnt have my Valence unit, I'd be willing to try these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunN4Lo Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, r111 said: No, no experience with this particular type. Seems to be common bat for ebikes, when wired for 24V or 36V . If I didnt have my Valence unit, I'd be willing to try these What makes you think the blue batts are common for ebikes... other than the (marketing) title for the listing? The batts are in no way, a form factor conducive to an ebike. Ebikes do not run 12v. They might run 36v but generally run in the 48-56ish volt range. So no way someone is putting 3-4 of those on a bike. The reviews are for gate openers and CPAP machines, not ebikes. The batts have 12awg leads. Nothing screams trolling motor to me. The blue batts are screaming.... NOT trolling motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobigblue Posted October 23, 2019 Report Share Posted October 23, 2019 16 hours ago, FunN4Lo said: I just installed a little tiny light weight pwm to go with my light weight battery. And its remote controlled too! It fits in a Home Depot electrical box, that I have mounted on top of my motor shaft, after I removed the factory head. It makes for a nice compact set up. Greatest thing since man canned beer. Are Youtube vids allowed here? I will post this thing in operation if so. im going to assume that tiny remote pwm costs an arm and a leg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunN4Lo Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 7 hours ago, gobigblue said: im going to assume that tiny remote pwm costs an arm and a leg? $34 Not much more than your average ebay PWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunN4Lo Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 Here is the micro RC esc/pwm in action. I guess if YouTube isn't allowed, Someone will delete it Turn on the sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striper46 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, FunN4Lo said: $34 Not much more than your average ebay PWM You have the brand and/or model number? Also where did u buy it? Tia gobigblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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