Check out my wife&son's "new" baitstick

[adams54]

So my dad made a trip to his township's recycling center to dispose of some construction debris and he came across an old school spinning rod/reel. He knows I'm now a fishaholic so he rescues it and takes it home. When I saw him he gifted it to me. There was a few decades old worth of dust/grime on it and the reel was seized up. My reaction was lukewarm at best and a little snooty at worst..."I don't have the time for this" would summarize it best. I wasn't crazy about it at first but after some thought, I realized I've become everything I hated. These days almost everything is throw away disposable chi-com garbage. So I decided to salvage it. I put in some elbow grease to clean up the rod. I tore down the reel from top to bottom. It was seized up due to the dried up original grease. No saltwater intrusion. I was amazed at how robust and solid this reel was built. Its a tank. After grease+assembly it works perfectly. This would make the perfect bait rod for my wife and son and should outlast anything Wal-Mart has to offer.  My plan is to take them fishing at a popular moco spot for when the blues show up in numbers. If you see us along with this beast say "hello!" Does anyone have any idea how old this setup is? How about recommendations for what I should spool it with? I was thinking 30lb mono.  Don't forget to say hello.

 

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Edited March 27, 2019 by adams54

[SIC34]

I can't see the rating on the rod but I think 30lb mono is overkill. Depending on what your doing with it 12 to 17 lb mono should be fine. I'll guess its probably close to 25-30 years old.

[adams54]

21 mins ago, SIC34 said:

I can't see the rating on the rod but I think 30lb mono is overkill. Depending on what your doing with it 12 to 17 lb mono should be fine. I'll guess its probably close to 25-30 years old.

Just throwing chunk bait for some blues. You're right that 30lb is too much. 1972LSP is printed on the rod. I wonder if that means it was made in 1972. 

[NJTramcar]

You did a nice job cleaning it up.

[FlatWing]

Daiwa introduced the first skirted spool in the industry with the silver series, in 1973.  If the reel is graphite (which I suspect, given how it cleaned up with no apparent loss of color (i.e., coating), then it post-dates the PC-13, which was introduced in 1982.  To the best of my knowledge, the second fishing tackle entity to have graphite rods after Fischer was Fenwick, and they introduced their graphite surf rods 1 or 2 years before 1980.  Based on this, the 1972LSP is likely a serial number for warrantee registration, which most early graphite rods included.

 

If I find my late 80's Daiwa catalogue, I will see if I can identify your rod.  A word of caution - early graphite rods could be broken just by inadvertently tapping the meatal rain gutter when sticking the rod into the front rod holders (the contact initiated a crack, which would propagate with use, resulting in a future failure, usually while fighting a fish).  

[adams54]

9 hours ago, FlatWing said:

Daiwa introduced the first skirted spool in the industry with the silver series, in 1973.  If the reel is graphite (which I suspect, given how it cleaned up with no apparent loss of color (i.e., coating), then it post-dates the PC-13, which was introduced in 1982.  To the best of my knowledge, the second fishing tackle entity to have graphite rods after Fischer was Fenwick, and they introduced their graphite surf rods 1 or 2 years before 1980.  Based on this, the 1972LSP is likely a serial number for warrantee registration, which most early graphite rods included.

 

If I find my late 80's Daiwa catalogue, I will see if I can identify your rod.  A word of caution - early graphite rods could be broken just by inadvertently tapping the meatal rain gutter when sticking the rod into the front rod holders (the contact initiated a crack, which would propagate with use, resulting in a future failure, usually while fighting a fish).  

Thanks for the info. Never really had much interest into the older saltwater gear until this fell into my lap. Its fascinating history imo. I will heed your advice about the graphite rod.

[Heavy Hooksetter]

On ‎3‎/‎27‎/‎2019 at 6:44 PM, adams54 said:

So my dad made a trip to his township's recycling center to dispose of some construction debris and he came across an old school spinning rod/reel. He knows I'm now a fishaholic so he rescues it and takes it home. When I saw him he gifted it to me. There was a few decades old worth of dust/grime on it and the reel was seized up. My reaction was lukewarm at best and a little snooty at worst..."I don't have the time for this" would summarize it best. I wasn't crazy about it at first but after some thought, I realized I've become everything I hated. These days almost everything is throw away disposable chi-com garbage. So I decided to salvage it. I put in some elbow grease to clean up the rod. I tore down the reel from top to bottom. It was seized up due to the dried up original grease. No saltwater intrusion. I was amazed at how robust and solid this reel was built. Its a tank. After grease+assembly it works perfectly. This would make the perfect bait rod for my wife and son and should outlast anything Wal-Mart has to offer.  My plan is to take them fishing at a popular moco spot for when the blues show up in numbers. If you see us along with this beast say "hello!" Does anyone have any idea how old this setup is? How about recommendations for what I should spool it with? I was thinking 30lb mono.  Don't forget to say hello.

 

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the guides loo0k to be dynaflow guides,do they have a yellow insert between the ring and frame,if so that's what they are.

they are known to be tough rods.

I have an old daiwa regal surf stick[composite] with the dynaflows and the stripper is a folder.

very nice rod too,bought it for 20 bucks years ago as old/new stock.

my wife uses it sometime and she likes it.

you should have fun with it.

I would go with 15-20lb mono on it.

HH

Edited March 31, 2019 by Heavy Hooksetter

[kevbo1756]

That is crazy, that was my exact fluke rod when I was a kid. I am assuming it is not sure they had the same rod with 15 different specs back then but I'd say probably late 80s my father brought it for me to use for fluke. I then used it off my kayak for stripers 2 years ago but it was too short and the butt was too long for my liking. I'll post a pic later.

[adams54]

40 mins ago, kevbo1756 said:

That is crazy, that was my exact fluke rod when I was a kid. I am assuming it is not sure they had the same rod with 15 different specs back then but I'd say probably late 80s my father brought it for me to use for fluke. I then used it off my kayak for stripers 2 years ago but it was too short and the butt was too long for my liking. I'll post a pic later.

Late 80s not as old as I thought. Looks like it will be my son's first rod as well. Glad I saved it. I really like the feel of it. Maybe I'll have him pass it down. Of course by then it might have no purpose. 

Edited April 1, 2019 by adams54