Knight771 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 mins ago, Little said: Honest broker. Kill a living child. Why? is progressivism so important, is the concept of eugenics so ingrained that a person would feel the need to do tha? thats a shame. Im going to block you now. I never thought Id read crap like that here. But I did. Why is anyone surprised? I've been saying for years that leftists are basically all the same. These are the people that did the Holodomor and the show trails, the gulags and the progroms, the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the Killing Fields, etc., etc. Human life is not sacred to them so human life is treated as just another cypher or statistic. If you can kill a newborn infant, you can kill anyone for the agenda if the law and Big Brother is on your side. This just goes to prove that Liberalism is Leprosy Political Correctness is the Sharia of Liberalism Riverboat33, DoOver, BigFischer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 3 mins ago, KnewBee said: "why", because the intent was abortion. Nothing to do with "progressivism" or "eugenics". less than 2% of all abortions are performed post 20 weeks which is considered "viability". Of those instances, the majority are non viable due to illness or severe abnormalities. We ain't talking about killing little babies post birth. Spin it any way you wish, the facts don't add up. But sure makes a great wedge issue and will dominate the GOP strategy to paint all democrats as baby killers. The right wing media is doing a great job of issuing the fake talking points and the base is eating it up. Looks like you are trying convince yourself lot more than me. There are people alive today that through Gods grace survived the attempts on their being by abortionists. Pretty inspirational to me. This position you take is NOT the high ground here. As long as you folks know where you stand. Goodbye DoOver, J and BigFischer 3 “My happiness is not the means to any end. It is the end. It is its own goal. It is its own purpose.” Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 mins ago, Knight771 said: Why is anyone surprised? I've been saying for years that leftists are basically all the same. These are the people that did the Holodomor and the show trails, the gulags and the progroms, the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the Killing Fields, etc., etc. Human life is not sacred to them so human life is treated as just another cypher or statistic. If you can kill a newborn infant, you can kill anyone for the agenda if the law and Big Brother is on your side. This just goes to prove that Liberalism is Leprosy Political Correctness is the Sharia of Liberalism Where is the block people button? “My happiness is not the means to any end. It is the end. It is its own goal. It is its own purpose.” Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 7 mins ago, Little said: Looks like you are trying convince yourself lot more than me. There are people alive today that through Gods grace survived the attempts on their being by abortionists. Pretty inspirational to me. This position you take is NOT the high ground here. As long as you folks know where you stand. Goodbye I’m pretty sure you’re on record in this forum being in favor of unregulated anortions. hunter123, fjr419 and Little 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrock Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Well, I guess this puts the “its for the children” and “if it saves one life” hooey to rest, at least DoOver, hunter123 and J 3 "mother Theresa was a POS"-fish'nmagician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight771 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 24 mins ago, Little said: Where is the block people button? Are you blocking me??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Knight771 said: Are you blocking me??? No, no. hunter123 and fjr419 1 1 “My happiness is not the means to any end. It is the end. It is its own goal. It is its own purpose.” Ayn Rand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flybyme Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Wait till they are not happy with an older adults quality of life, they will push bills to kill you also. This is our New Democratic Party....... or are we just seeing their true colors......... hunter123 and DoOver 2 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight771 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 7 mins ago, Flybyme said: Wait till they are not happy with an older adults quality of life, they will push bills to kill you also. This is our New Democratic Party....... or are we just seeing their true colors......... Yep, If you'll kill late term babies in the womb and infants, killing 85 year olds will be a snap. "Qualify of Life" (read socialist efficiency) What the hell, got to break a few eggs to make that omlet. Edited February 26, 2019 by Knight771 hunter123 and DoOver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Knight771 said: Yep, If you'll kill late term babies in the womb and infants, killing 85 year olds will be a snap. "Qualify of Life" (read socialist efficiency) This issue is actually closest to the pulling the plug on life support moral quandry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessmuk Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'm gonna buy some cheap coastal property in North Alaska. I see a budding cottage industry with old folks and ice floes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Nessmuk said: I'm gonna buy some cheap coastal property in North Alaska. I see a budding cottage industry with old folks and ice floes. In all seriousness, end of life costs are a major driver of costs. It's a place where a real discussion needs to be had if we're talking about our medical system. I always give the example of my own grandmother who was late stage alzheimers, in a dementia unit and they wanted to do a $65k procedure on her heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessmuk Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 min ago, The Dude said: In all seriousness, end of life costs are a major driver of costs. It's a place where a real discussion needs to be had if we're talking about our medical system. I always give the example of my own grandmother who was late stage alzheimers, in a dementia unit and they wanted to do a $65k procedure on her heart. In this case I happen to agree with you. I'm not sure about a great solution, but I am convinced we need to learn to die better, and we need to start talking about being responsible at the end stages. You know how I feel about EVER using other people's resources to provide our personal care. The medical machine is happy to keep spending money on hopeless causes. Rather than making a decision about when to pull the plug on someone else, I think it should probably be a matter of pulling the plug when you can't afford to keep it plugged in yourself. That should trigger a discussion by all of us, on the morality of prolonging our own lives at the burden of our families and others. I'd like to think I've already made some of those decisions for myself, and hope I have the character in the end to live with them. Yeah, I may live a few years less than some rich folks. I've made my own career decisions and am ready to own them. No one owes me a thing. Markushook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 min ago, Nessmuk said: In this case I happen to agree with you. I'm not sure about a great solution, but I am convinced we need to learn to die better, and we need to start talking about being responsible at the end stages. You know how I feel about EVER using other people's resources to provide our personal care. The medical machine is happy to keep spending money on hopeless causes. Rather than making a decision about when to pull the plug on someone else, I think it should probably be a matter of pulling the plug when you can't afford to keep it plugged in yourself. That should trigger a discussion by all of us, on the morality of prolonging our own lives at the burden of our families and others. I'd like to think I've already made some of those decisions for myself, and hope I have the character in the end to live with them. Yeah, I may live a few years less than some rich folks. I've made my own career decisions and am ready to own them. No one owes me a thing. It also extends to the abortion cases in question here. If a nonviable fetus is aborted because it's nonviable, should we be working to prolong that life through medicine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nalu22 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe said: 53-44 against in the Senate that means the GOP voted it down. Not (1) Republican voted Nay on this; facts don't care about your feelings. hunter123 and DoOver 2 "Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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