Punch63 Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Does anyone use the minwax wood hardner to seal their plugs, the can says its a sealer, and dry time is only a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PogyPete Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 I had the same thought awhile ago, lots of fumes with that stuff, need plenty of ventilation and a respirator mask with organic cartridges. I'd try some thing water based/low fumes. Punch63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Pulse Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Not healthy. Regular less toxic epoxies will work just as good Punch63 1 what's the secret word for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch63 Posted February 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 If I do the bake and epoxy, what do I thin down the epoxy with paint thinner ? Thanks for responding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Pulse Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I don’t thin what I use because it is thin already. but other guys do. Maybe they will chime in. Punch63 1 what's the secret word for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheFish Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 If you warm the plug in the microwave for a few seconds no thinning needed kind of amazing how the 15-30 sec in the microwave allows the epoxy to soak in the wood pretty quickly too. I thought I read thinning epoxy was a no-no but your results may be different just don’t think it’s needed Punch63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarineSniper Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I do epoxy for sealing wood baits, I do use Minwax Wood Hardener for doing casting eggs as I can soak 25 to 30 at a time, fast drying, then just a double dip in minwax polycrylic. I do however do the hardener in my garage due to the fumes. Punch63 1 "Never make the assumption that a Marine by himself is outnumbered" Gen Peter Pace, 28Jul06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollincoal Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 20 hours ago, Punch63 said: If I do the bake and epoxy, what do I thin down the epoxy with paint thinner ? Thanks for responding If you want a thinner epoxy, I'd recommend systems three. Its harder to work with; though, as long as it is the seal coat and not the final finish issues wont necessarily be a liability. "If you know that and you don't know anything else you know more than if you know everything else and you don't know that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefreeordie Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 From what I've read, thinning epoxy will leave micro holes. I doubt, however, these are an issue when primer and paint follow up to plug any water intrusion. My concern would be that I want best adhesion possible, and I know epoxy seeps into and clings to warm clean wood rather well. I don't wanna mess with that by adding ingredients. I would not add thinner of any sort to epoxy topcoats, I'm afraid of 'lifting' the paint and micro holes Punch63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striperknight Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Follow all the safety instructions when using minwax wood hardner. Dangerous stuff to be exposed to for a hobby. Punch63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch63 Posted February 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 If I heat/bake the wood, then epoxy, is there still a need to dip into a polyurethane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wire For Fire Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 No.. I bake to like 275-300, let stay till good and warm , i stick them in foil cause I use a small toaster oven and don’t want to burn them.. I use etex , mix it up equal part by volume then i let it sit with alil desk light over it to gently warm it , it will thin slightly as warmed , then just smear all over plug and use lil syringe to squeeze it down through all holes .. once alil tackyish just rub all excess off and hang to dry .. I like to check them after an hour and wipe up and excess that drips out from inside .. after 2-3 days they rocks solid and good to go ... get your plug finished sanded before you seal ... Punch63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch63 Posted February 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) Thanks Wire, I kinda thought adding poly. Maybe a little overkill. I don't expect my plugs to last forever anyway, if they did, I'd have nothing to do in the off season. I've been using ERC full 2"×2" real nice wood to work with, makes a heavier pencil, close to 5 oz., than normally made. Edited February 8, 2019 by Punch63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wire For Fire Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Punch63 said: Thanks Wire, I kinda thought adding poly. Maybe a little overkill. I don't expect my plugs to last forever anyway, if they did, I'd have nothing to do in the off season. I've been using ERC full 2"×2" real nice wood to work with, makes a heavier pencil, close to 5 oz., than normally made. I can’t take credit for it .. I learned it here from sudsy ... it’s a great method.. . it’s not about making a plug that last forever , cause if you actually fish them , they are disposable and one day mostly likely will be gone .. but it’s more for me about having a plug that swims the same from first cast till the end of its day and doesn’t take on water .. sealed and finished with etex properly makes for one tough ass plug in my experiences .. have went hundreds of big blues that would of turned a Gibbs to tooth picks on pencils I’ve finished and they hold up very very well .. just my 2 cents Punch63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudsy Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 16 hours ago, MarineSniper said: I do epoxy for sealing wood baits, I do use Minwax Wood Hardener for doing casting eggs as I can soak 25 to 30 at a time, fast drying, then just a double dip in minwax polycrylic. I do however do the hardener in my garage due to the fumes. I wouldn't even do that Outdoors only and stay upwind at all times !! That is some seriously bad stuff and unless you have a powerful venting system or a detached garage, those fumes are going to find their way somewhere you don't want them to I just wanta play everyday despite small nagging injuries -- and go home to a woman who appreciates how full of crap I truly am. ~ Crash Davis Social Distancing since 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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