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Old Town Top Water 106 PDL Review

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Stainless and aluminum definitely don’t mix. Powder coating is legendary for failures as a deep scratch can start the lifting process. T3 Anodizing while more expensive is much tougher and the parts become electrically neutral. Or so I have been told with a bunch or words I didn’t understand 

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So my Top Water PDL drive has been in brackish and freshwater about 3 times and stored outside near a beach. The rust has already started. 

 

I have marine grade stainless 3/16” x 1/8” rivets just hanging around from a past kayak project.  Perfect match to replace the inferior steel pin Old Town gives you. A pair of knipex bolt cutters to trim and I am good to go. Some anti-rust grease and corrosion x for guns and done. 

 

I have been fixing pedal drive problems for a while from Hobie,Native, and now Old Town. This was the easiet and cheapest fix I have ever did. 

 

Be warned.  If you do not change this pin you will have problems down the road.  Even under the warranty you will still have down time and possible shipping costs out of pocket.  

 

Hopefully Old Town goes with a stainless pin in the future.  You can still make it sheer style just has to scribe and weaken and break upon impact. For me I am not concerned with that. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, The Riddler said:

So my Top Water PDL drive has been in brackish and freshwater about 3 times and stored outside near a beach. The rust has already started. 

 

I have marine grade stainless 3/16” x 1/8” rivets just hanging around from a past kayak project.  Perfect match to replace the inferior steel pin Old Town gives you. A pair of knipex bolt cutters to trim and I am good to go. Some anti-rust grease and corrosion x for guns and done. 

 

I have been fixing pedal drive problems for a while from Hobie,Native, and now Old Town. This was the easiet and cheapest fix I have ever did. 

 

Be warned.  If you do not change this pin you will have problems down the road.  Even under the warranty you will still have down time and possible shipping costs out of pocket.  

 

Hopefully Old Town goes with a stainless pin in the future.  You can still make it sheer style just has to scribe and weaken and break upon impact. For me I am not concerned with that. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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According to Old Town the pins are stainless. Am I allowed to post their email responses back on here? Not trying to get flagged or anything.

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2 hours ago, Letdatbassknock said:

According to Old Town the pins are stainless. Am I allowed to post their email responses back on here? Not trying to get flagged or anything.

Those pins are not stainless. If you can find where they say it's stainless let me know and post here so I can read up on it.

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Stainless steel with a higher carbon content?  lol....I would say way too much carbon and not much chromium.

Staying with that pin in there is an absolute risk of having it corrode and seize up.

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14 mins ago, The Riddler said:

Stainless steel with a higher carbon content?  lol....I would say way too much carbon and not much chromium.

Staying with that pin in there is an absolute risk of having it corrode and seize up.

I'm going to try and order the same thing you used above and make a new one, plus cut some extras.

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I believe it's just an 1/8" diameter on the rivet pin. You can put anything in there just need a clean way of cutting it.

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Riddler, how does the hull feel? At the drive does it feel like it flexes when standing at all? I'm probably going to pick one up this spring. Ill keep my Hobie but think with all the other brands in the market and Oldtowns decent warranty, I am leaning toward this kayak. Maybe next months saltwater expo will have the fishfinder deal like they did in September. Fingers crossed.

 

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2 mins ago, FishingmaniYaks said:

Riddler, how does the hull feel? At the drive does it feel like it flexes when standing at all? I'm probably going to pick one up this spring. Ill keep my Hobie but think with all the other brands in the market and Oldtowns decent warranty, I am leaning toward this kayak. Maybe next months saltwater expo will have the fishfinder deal like they did in September. Fingers crossed.

 

as far as i have heard this spring old ton has the fishfinder deal on the predators, but not topwaters, i may be wrong though

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1 hour ago, FishingmaniYaks said:

Riddler, how does the hull feel? At the drive does it feel like it flexes when standing at all? I'm probably going to pick one up this spring. Ill keep my Hobie but think with all the other brands in the market and Oldtowns decent warranty, I am leaning toward this kayak. Maybe next months saltwater expo will have the fishfinder deal like they did in September. Fingers crossed.

 

No flex that I have felt. The only show special I saw is for this weekend in CT at the fishing show. FF and mounting system.

 

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I reached out to Oldtown and waiting for the response if NJ will have this offer also. Saves me a drive but if I dont get a response by tomorrow I will be driving north. If anybody else can confirm for NJ. Much appreciated. Thanks again Riddler.

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