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Found this on my FB page through NJ division of wildlife:

 

 

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On October 21 in Cape May, DFW Conservation Police Officers Brian Tomlin and Timothy Raker caught three individuals. They had a total of 27 tautog over the limit, 26 of which were also undersize. Two of the individuals in this incident were repeat tautog offenders.

The officers were able to return most of the fish to the water alive.

As a result, the individuals’ fishing gear was seized, and they were issued court appearance mandatory summonses. At the time of the apprehension the legal possession limit for tautog, also called blackfish, was one fish of at least 15” in length.

On November 27, in Lower Township Municipal Court the following judgements were entered.

Guang W. Lin, 45, of Philadelphia, PA entered a guilty plea to a charge of “Possession of seven tautog under legal size,” and two charges of “Possession of six tautog over the legal limit.” A total penalty of $1200 was assessed. This is Guang W. Lin’s third conviction on tautog violations. Two of the three convictions occurred within the past 5 years. He received a statutory two-year suspension of his hunting and freshwater fishing privileges.

David Lin, 52 of Philadelphia, PA entered a guilty plea on one charge of “Take or possess thirteen tautog under legal size” and one charge of “Take or possess twelve marine fish over limit.” A total penalty of $1500 was assessed.

Guang F. Lin, 54, of Philadelphia, PA entered a guilty plea to one charge of “Take or possess six undersized marine fish (tautog).” A penalty of $400 was assessed. This is also Guang F. Lin’s third conviction on tautog violations. Two of the three convictions occurred within the past 5 years. He received a statutory two-year suspension of his hunting and freshwater fishing privileges.

All license suspensions are submitted to the 46 other Interstate Wildlife Violator Compact member states for consideration of reciprocal suspension.

 

 

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Those penalties are bs. 2 years of freshwater suspension? Wow, so dumb. Those a-holes should be locked up for a year. Maybe then they'd learn. I have no sympathy or tolerance for blatant poachers. Especially repeat offenders.

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How about some serious penalties?  Undersized, keeping tons of fish, multiple repeat offenses?  Throw the book at them!  Jail time, SERIOUS fines, Loss of ALL gear... fishing, vehicles, everything involved in the poaching.

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I bet these guys have a tank of some sort in their car and sell em live for big bucks.  Have the same type of people doing it down here in MD and regularly get busted but they make so much $ off it that they are ok with an occasional fine.

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3rd time for the same thing?  Deport them.

 

And if they're citizens, strip their citizenship and then deport them.

 

If you want it to stop, then put real penalties in place.

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Since money is their obvious motive, it should also be their punishment. If you take their boat,car or gear and make it too expensive to be a multiple convicted poacher, then they will no longer do it. If poaching income exceeds the "overhead" of fines, then they will continue. I understand a judge in urban courts see much worse offenses against humans and lets them off with a slap on the wrist, they'd have a hard time sentencing a poacher to time. Hit em in the wallet, HARD, and they will stop.

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11 hours ago, chitala383 said:

Those penalties are bs. 2 years of freshwater suspension?

Well the NJ recreational community did vote against a SWL so you can't fault the law makers for only being able to enforce the freshwater thing.  

It's the way it works.  

If you're a deadbeat dad you can't buy hunting or fishing licenses.  But you can Saltwater fish all you want.  

If you get 3 fish and game citations you lose your privilege for 5 years.  This can be any type of violation.  But you can't enforce it on saltwater since there is no license.  you guys can't have it both ways.  Maybe setting the guys up in front of a firing squad can be pushed through.  

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Firing squad is a little tough :) but much stiffer monetary penalty is needed, start at $10,000 and work your way up.  Seize the boat also is not off the table if its being used to catch illegal fish repeatedly.

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They should have to wear ankle bracelets that notify the authorities anytime they are on the water.

 

Since that's never gonna happen, they need to cut off the market for these fish.  It's a heck of a lot easier to target the various stores that sell these fish than it is to try and find the guys that are supplying them. If the stores were required to document & verify their sources, then at least there would be a process in place to track it.  Plus, if the stores have undersized fish, they can and should be fined as well. 

 

There's no perfect solution and there will always be those who will find ways to cheat the system, but with the scant resources fish & game wardens have, I'd be targeting stores that sell them live.

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