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gonna be going out on the big Jamaica hopefully Wednesday night, any tips on how heavy my tackle should be, around how much lead I would be using, jig weights, anything, this is my first time going out on a trip that isn't inshore. thanks in advance 

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You will need sinkers from 16oz to 24oz. Under normal condition 18oz will do. 12-14oz jig should be fine...

 

There is info on the big Jamaica web site.

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You'll hopefully be fishing in 160ft+, if they go all the way out to a spot like the Triple Wrecks or Carolina.

 

Big Sea Bass, and maybe a Cod or Pollack are in the mix.

 

Braid helps.  I go with 50lb mainline (braid), 20ft or so of 40lb mono (for abrasion resistance against the wreck), and I tie my rigs with 30lb test.  If you snag, you want to be able to break it off at the rig, not somewhere on your mainline.

 

If there's not a lot of current, you'll be fine with 16oz weights, but be prepared with some 20 and 24.

 

2 dropper loops about 2 feet apart with a 6/0-7/0 hook on it (you want BIG Sea Bass, not runts), and a loop at the bottom for your sinker.

 

If there's a good bite going, you should be able to limit out on Sea Bass pretty easily, and on bigger fish, so don't throw a bunch of 13" fish in your cooler right off the bat if you see bigger ones coming over the rail.  You want to come home with 15 Sea Bass that are about 20", in a perfect world.

 

Bring a spare bucket to use for bleeding your fish, and get a nice saltwater brine going in your cooler.  Take care of your catch; they're excellent eating.

 

Good luck, those trips can be a lot of fun.

 

Couple more things..............

 

Bring a couple of frozen Mackeral with you if you're passing a B&T between now and then.  The salted clam the boat provides works just fine, but sometimes when the bite is a little tough, the fish lose their minds over a piece of Mackeral.  Cut it into pieces about half the size of your thumb.

 

Also, bring a couple of jigs.  If there's hordes of smaller fish around, jigs tend to catch bigger fish, and provide a nice change of pace if you get bored with bait.

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5 hours ago, JoeyZac said:

You'll hopefully be fishing in 160ft+, if they go all the way out to a spot like the Triple Wrecks or Carolina.

 

Big Sea Bass, and maybe a Cod or Pollack are in the mix.

 

Braid helps.  I go with 50lb mainline (braid), 20ft or so of 40lb mono (for abrasion resistance against the wreck), and I tie my rigs with 30lb test.  If you snag, you want to be able to break it off at the rig, not somewhere on your mainline.

 

If there's not a lot of current, you'll be fine with 16oz weights, but be prepared with some 20 and 24.

 

2 dropper loops about 2 feet apart with a 6/0-7/0 hook on it (you want BIG Sea Bass, not runts), and a loop at the bottom for your sinker.

 

If there's a good bite going, you should be able to limit out on Sea Bass pretty easily, and on bigger fish, so don't throw a bunch of 13" fish in your cooler right off the bat if you see bigger ones coming over the rail.  You want to come home with 15 Sea Bass that are about 20", in a perfect world.

 

Bring a spare bucket to use for bleeding your fish, and get a nice saltwater brine going in your cooler.  Take care of your catch; they're excellent eating.

 

Good luck, those trips can be a lot of fun.

 

Couple more things..............

 

Bring a couple of frozen Mackeral with you if you're passing a B&T between now and then.  The salted clam the boat provides works just fine, but sometimes when the bite is a little tough, the fish lose their minds over a piece of Mackeral.  Cut it into pieces about half the size of your thumb.

 

Also, bring a couple of jigs.  If there's hordes of smaller fish around, jigs tend to catch bigger fish, and provide a nice change of pace if you get bored with bait.

That's all solid advice there!

Agreed, if you get a good weather window, good fun & great eating! I wish I had time to squeeze another trip in.

Hove fun and pleasee report back.

JD

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^^^^^ solid info, especially when fishing deep 

 

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