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There was an opinion piece in the WSJ the other day. 

I clipped just the few lines that in my opinion summarize the essay.

 

What do you think?

 

 

Those Bush val­ues are de­fin­able in words such as tem­per­ance, self-re­straint, plain-speak­ing, hon­esty, duty, for­bear­ance, hu­mil­ity, pru­dence, courage.

 

Times change. Fam­ily val­ues have been dis­placed by a more me­dia-dri­ven agenda: racism, iden­tity, gen­der, im­mi­gra­tion, tar­iffs. Taxes are a con­stant, but if Pres­i­dent Trump raises taxes next year in a com­pro­mise with the Pelosi De­moc­rats, don’t ex­pect the Belt­way press to give him the same praise 41 is get­ting this week for re­vers­ing his no-new-taxes pledge.

 

Per­haps, like Bush, Don­ald Trump will be a one-term pres­i­dent, and for the same rea­son—a slow­ing U.S. econ­omy. But if you want to dis­cover why Amer­ica lost the per­sonal and po­lit­i­cal val­ues of George H.W. Bush, for­get Don­ald Trump. Look deeper.

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2 mins ago, dena said:

Sounds like wishful thinking on your part, Trump being a one termer.

Who is the Democrat front runner to take him out?

 

mike pence?

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Pence looks the part but is a do nothing figurehead. He neither takes away nor brings anything to the table.

I'm reading rumors Trump will replace him on the ticket. 

 

Nikki Haley has been mentioned. Gasp! :laugh: 

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2 mins ago, saltydawg said:

After seeing how Democrats are clambering to one-up the praise for George HW, I’m inclined to believe that in 25 years they will love Trump.

 

I vote for 41

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I absolutely agree with your c/p. It's about power and the liberals have a strategy. Basically, attack all established norms that have been the foundation of our society.

 

As the younger generation gains more power, this country will continue to move towards socialism. 

 

Think NYC for the whole country.

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38 mins ago, Lagerhead said:

I absolutely agree with your c/p. It's about power and the liberals have a strategy. Basically, attack all established norms that have been the foundation of our society.

 

As the younger generation gains more power, this country will continue to move towards socialism. 

 

Think NYC for the whole country.

 

Modern Family Syndrome 

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40 mins ago, zybathegeek said:

But Trump is a misogynist.

Oh yeah, I forgot that, he hides it so well. 

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The media was not 24/7/365 in GHWB's day.  They still hated him and anything with an "R" next to their name, but people were still tuning into ABC/NBC/CBS to get their hate.   CNN was not spouting the full on hate that it is today.  It was somewhat credible back then.

 

The news today is completely different and GHWB could not have been the gentleman that he was then to deal with them today.

 

It did not work for GWB, or McCain/Romney when they ran.  You have to confront the bully today.

 

 

 

 

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7 mins ago, Maine Guide said:

The media was not 24/7/365 in GHWB's day.  They still hated him and anything with an "R" next to their name, but people were still tuning into ABC/NBC/CBS to get their hate.   CNN was not spouting the full on hate that it is today.  It was somewhat credible back then.

 

The news today is completely different and GHWB could not have been the gentleman that he was then to deal with them today.

 

It did not work for GWB, or McCain/Romney when they ran.  You have to confront the bully today.

 

 

 

 

My money says he would have gone All Out Lindsey Graham on them AND been re-elected for it.

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1 hour ago, JohnP said:

There was an opinion piece in the WSJ the other day. 

I clipped just the few lines that in my opinion summarize the essay.

 

What do you think?

 

 

Those Bush val­ues are de­fin­able in words such as tem­per­ance, self-re­straint, plain-speak­ing, hon­esty, duty, for­bear­ance, hu­mil­ity, pru­dence, courage.

 

Times change. Fam­ily val­ues have been dis­placed by a more me­dia-dri­ven agenda: racism, iden­tity, gen­der, im­mi­gra­tion, tar­iffs. Taxes are a con­stant, but if Pres­i­dent Trump raises taxes next year in a com­pro­mise with the Pelosi De­moc­rats, don’t ex­pect the Belt­way press to give him the same praise 41 is get­ting this week for re­vers­ing his no-new-taxes pledge.

 

Per­haps, like Bush, Don­ald Trump will be a one-term pres­i­dent, and for the same rea­son—a slow­ing U.S. econ­omy. But if you want to dis­cover why Amer­ica lost the per­sonal and po­lit­i­cal val­ues of George H.W. Bush, for­get Don­ald Trump. Look deeper.

I agree with much of the quote. Trump is a symptom, not a cause. The larger isssue relates back to society at large which is going through a technological adolescence as we adapt to the changes in communication and knowledge. A hundred or so years from now, we'll look back at this time as a profound period in human history. Social media shone a light on the corners of society that were in the dark for so long and allowed them a collective voice. It's increased tribalism and we can now find all the confirmation bias you can handle at your fingertips. On top of it all, everyone is walking around with a high quality video camera.

 

That's a lot to swallow culturally all at once. There's going to be more than a few growing pains.

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