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#metoo is fast becoming #notyou for women

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What did these women expect we men would do?

 

When you deal with the untenable, it is best to drop it and move on and away from it, which is exactly what is happening.

 

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#MeToo Backfires: Wall Street's New Rule Is 'Avoid Women At All Cost'

Chris Menahan
InformationLiberation
Dec. 04, 2018

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No one could have predicted this!

From Bloomberg:

No more dinners with female colleagues. Don’t sit next to them on flights. Book hotel rooms on different floors. Avoid one-on-one meetings.

In fact, as a wealth adviser put it, just hiring a woman these days is “an unknown risk.” What if she took something he said the wrong way?

Across Wall Street, men are adopting controversial strategies for the #MeToo era and, in the process, making life even harder for women.

Just ignore the fact #MeToo made life infinitely harder for men.

Call it the Pence Effect, after U.S. Vice President Mike Pence, who has said he avoids dining alone with any woman other than his wife. In finance, the overarching impact can be, in essence, gender segregation.

Interviews with more than 30 senior executives suggest many are spooked by #MeToo and struggling to cope. “It’s creating a sense of walking on eggshells,” said David Bahnsen, a former managing director at Morgan Stanley who’s now an independent adviser overseeing more than $1.5 billion.

Many are also having their lives destroyed due to false accusations.

Now, more than a year into the #MeToo movement -- with its devastating revelations of harassment and abuse in Hollywood, Silicon Valley and beyond -- Wall Street risks becoming more of a boy’s club, rather than less of one.

“Women are grasping for ideas on how to deal with it, because it is affecting our careers,” said Karen Elinski, president of the Financial Women’s Association and a senior vice president at Wells Fargo & Co. “It’s a real loss.”

Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps!

 

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There’s a danger, too, for companies that fail to squash the isolating backlash and don’t take steps to have top managers be open about the issue and make it safe for everyone to discuss it, said Stephen Zweig, an employment attorney with FordHarrison.

“If men avoid working or traveling with women alone, or stop mentoring women for fear of being accused of sexual harassment,” he said, “those men are going to back out of a sexual harassment complaint and right into a sex discrimination complaint.”

This is the ridiculous situation we now find ourselves in.

Being accused of sexual discrimination is nothing compared to being falsely accused of rape, so don't expect this trend to reverse.

There are as many or more men who are responding in quite different ways. One, an investment adviser who manages about 100 employees, said he briefly reconsidered having one-on-one meetings with junior women. He thought about leaving his office door open, or inviting a third person into the room.

Finally, he landed on the solution: “Just try not to be an sweetheart.”

 

Note too, that clown "investment adviser" refused to give his name.

The article finishes with a woman demanding men give women special treatment in the name of chivalry:

“There aren’t enough women in senior positions to bring along the next generation all by themselves,” said Lisa Kaufman, chief executive officer of LaSalle Securities. “Advancement typically requires that someone at a senior level knows your work, gives you opportunities and is willing to champion you within the firm. It’s hard for a relationship like that to develop if the senior person is unwilling to spend one-on-one time with a more junior person.”

Men have to step up, she said, and “not let fear be a barrier.”

It's amazing how "empowered women" seamlessly transition into "damsels in distress" whenever it suits them.

Shockingly, it was reported earlier this year that similar has happened in Canada:

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The newfound ability to destroy a man through mere accusations does not come without costs!

 

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Maybe some good can come from this, like more mothers staying home to care for their children.... 

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The power of P

5 mins ago, zybathegeek said:

What did these women expect we men would do?

The newfound ability to destroy a man through mere accusations does not come without costs!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Every action has an equal an opposite reaction.

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13 mins ago, zybathegeek said:

What did these women expect we men would do?

When these women shout and scream that employment opportunities are vanishing, be sure to remind them they did it to themselves.

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14 hours ago, zybathegeek said:

What did these women expect we men would do?

 

When you deal with the untenable, it is best to drop it and move on and away from it, which is exactly what is happening.

 

 

 

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Interesting piece, although a more apt name for the phenomenon would be “Kavanaugh Effect” since that was the moment all the believe us or else crap insanely escalated.

 

Pence’s strategy is more of a solution. 

 

And he was quite prescient about it.

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I have been leary since the day I got called to HR for laughing at what I thought was a innocent joke.  Maybe a tad risque, but nothing profane or dirty.  And all I did was laugh, I did not tell the joke.

 

No matter, I had to go to sensitivity training along with 1/2 the office.

 

Flash forward 6 months from then and nobody wanted to work with Trudy (real name) and nobody would socialize with her at work or after.  She quit not long after that.

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And i am sure that cee you next tuesday is hash taging poundmetoo all over the place these days.

 

****ing battlewagon too.  25 years and I am still pissed I guess, lol

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Pretty much work for myself now so not a daily concern but spent the better part of 25 years in Big Corplandia and only ran across two or three these types (way before Me2 obviously).

 

Almost every women I worked with, for and managed were stable and professional and would like to think that this is still the case with the majority out there today.

 

Which really does suck for them as this silent "self-defense discrimination" is absolutely going to happen.

 

If I was still doing the suit thing today I would keep my head down and watch every word I say at all times.

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