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Reagan, 1980

 

"...It's fitting that on Labor Day, we meet beside the harbors, the waters I should say of New York harbor, with the eyes of Miss Liberty on our gathering and in the words of the poet whose lines are inscribed at her feet, "On the air bridged harbor that twin cities frame."

Through this "Golden Door," under the gaze of that "Mother of Exiles," has come millions of men and women, who first set foot on American soil right there, on Ellis Island, so close to the Statue of Liberty.

These families came here to work. They came to build. Others came to America in different ways, from other lands, under different, and often harrowing conditions. But this place symbolizes what they all managed to build, no matter where they came from or how they came or how much they suffered.

They helped to build that magnificent city across the river. They spread across the land building other cities and other towns and incredibly productive farms.

They came to make America work. They didn’t ask what this country could do for them but what they could do to make this -- this refuge the greatest home of freedom in history.

They brought with them courage, ambition and the values of family, neighborhood, work, peace, and freedom. We all came from different lands but we share the same values, the same dream...

 

....I want more than anything I’ve ever wanted, to have an Administration that will, through its actions, at home and in the international arena, let millions of people know that Miss Liberty still, “Lifts her lamp beside the golden door.” Through our international broadcasting stations, the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, and the others; let us send, loud and clear, the message that this generation of Americans intends to keep that lamp shining. That this dream -- that this dream, this last best hope of man on earth, this nation under God, shall not perish from the earth. We will instead carry on the building of an American economy that once again holds forth real opportunity for all. We shall continue to be a symbol of freedom and guardian of the eternal values that so inspired those who came to this port of entry.

Let us pledge to each other, with this Great Lady looking on, that we can, and so help us God, we will make America great again."

 

Maybe it is best if we eliminate ALL refugee entries, ALL Asylum seekers.    Yeah, we should do that.  Sooner the better.....

 

 

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7 mins ago, KnewBee said:

Maybe it is best if we eliminate ALL refugee entries, ALL Asylum seekers.    Yeah, we should do that.  Sooner the better.....

legal /illegal learn the difference.

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2 mins ago, mitchell master said:

legal /illegal learn the difference.

Those seeking asylum or refugee status are indeed seeking "legal" entry.   There is a difference and this EO to blur the line does not seem to understand the difference, at least on face value.

 

What it does to is stoke the base and fire them up to "understand" the tough on immigration stance.   

 

It is a lame response to an imagined "invasion".  Pathetic.   

 

Never thought I would evoke Reagan, but these are strange times indeed.

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"Fewer than 1 percent of formally recognized refugees worldwide are resettled annually, with about 125,600 individuals departing to resettlement countries in 2016. The United States has historically led the world in terms of refugee resettlement, and today remains the top resettlement country. In fiscal year (FY) 2016, the United States resettled 84,994 refugees. Beyond accepting refugees for resettlement from countries of first asylum, the United States also grants humanitarian protection to asylum seekers who present themselves at U.S. ports of entry or claim asylum from within the country; in FY 2015 (the most recent data available), the United States granted asylum to 26,124 individuals."

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1 hour ago, KnewBee said:

"Fewer than 1 percent of formally recognized refugees worldwide are resettled annually, with about 125,600 individuals departing to resettlement countries in 2016. The United States has historically led the world in terms of refugee resettlement, and today remains the top resettlement country. In fiscal year (FY) 2016, the United States resettled 84,994 refugees. Beyond accepting refugees for resettlement from countries of first asylum, the United States also grants humanitarian protection to asylum seekers who present themselves at U.S. ports of entry or claim asylum from within the country; in FY 2015 (the most recent data available), the United States granted asylum to 26,124 individuals."

Dont enter illegally and they can apply. They've also had many chances on their "march" to go to any of the 10 embassies in mexico to claim asylum.

https://www.usembassy.gov/mexico/

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1 hour ago, KnewBee said:

Those seeking asylum or refugee status are indeed seeking "legal" entry..............

 

But they are doing so under false pretenses.

 

To me, that's like lying to a judge when not under oath.  It's not illegal, but that don't make it right.

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14 hours ago, KnewBee said:

Those seeking asylum or refugee status are indeed seeking "legal" entry.   There is a difference and this EO to blur the line does not seem to understand the difference, at least on face value.

 

 

Part of that approach of Legal entry is to appear for the court date issued when they ask for Asylum, Yet what 98% never show at court they just blend into the population.  they play a game and a loophole

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11 mins ago, Sandflee said:

 

Part of that approach of Legal entry is to appear for the court date issued when they ask for Asylum, Yet what 98% never show at court they just blend into the population.  they play a game and a loophole

Aside from the indoctrination from White House statements and right wing propaganda.  Please supply a source for your claim.

 

 

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13 mins ago, Sandflee said:

 

Part of that approach of Legal entry is to appear for the court date issued when they ask for Asylum, Yet what 98% never show at court they just blend into the population.  they play a game and a loophole

I found the 98% for you.  You must have heard it wrong?

 

"So what do the court attendance rates of asylees look like? While the data is scarce, they show higher rates, compared to when all migrants are tallied together.

One source of data comes from an Obama-era program that released asylees from detention and matched them with case managers who encouraged compliance with court-ordered obligations. As of April, the Family Case Management Program, or FCMP, had 630 enrolled families.

Before the Trump administration ended the program in June, participants had a 100 percent attendance record at court hearings. They also had a 99 percent rate of check-ins and appointments with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, according to a Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General report.

"According to ICE, overall program compliance for all five regions is an average of 99 percent for ICE check-ins and appointments, as well as 100 percent attendance at court hearings," the report said. "Since the inception of FCMP, 23 out of 954 participants (2 percent) were reported as absconders."

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https://cis.org/Report/Courting-Disaster

8 hours ago, KnewBee said:

I found the 98% for you.  You must have heard it wrong?

 

"So what do the court attendance rates of asylees look like? While the data is scarce, they show higher rates, compared to when all migrants are tallied together.

One source of data comes from an Obama-era program that released asylees from detention and matched them with case managers who encouraged compliance with court-ordered obligations. As of April, the Family Case Management Program, or FCMP, had 630 enrolled families.

Before the Trump administration ended the program in June, participants had a 100 percent attendance record at court hearings. They also had a 99 percent rate of check-ins and appointments with Immigration and Customs Enforcement, according to a Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General report.

"According to ICE, overall program compliance for all five regions is an average of 99 percent for ICE check-ins and appointments, as well as 100 percent attendance at court hearings," the report said. "Since the inception of FCMP, 23 out of 954 participants (2 percent) were reported as absconders."

 

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