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prototype Black Hole Surf rods

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Will a 10'6 Suzuki around $200 be coming soon? If so, that would be my next rod, maybe paired with a gosa or perhaps the new 6000 tsunami salt x coming 

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22 hours ago, jkorgood said:

Will a 10'6 Suzuki around $200 be coming soon? If so, that would be my next rod, maybe paired with a gosa or perhaps the new 6000 tsunami salt x coming 

We have no intention to introduce the 10'6 Suzuki rod in the near future unless there are demand.

I don't see any reason for longer 10'6" rods for such a light rod.

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On ‎11‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 10:06 PM, Stryper Snyper said:

Ksong what is the status of the 8 foot Suzuki?

I expect them by March for the shows.

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2 hours ago, ksong said:

I expect them by March for the shows.

Striper day  is January 20 2019,surf day is February 16 2019.(according  to  previous posts ) what  shows in March?

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3 mins ago, klunkers said:

Striper day  is January 20 2019,surf day is February 16 2019.(according  to  previous posts ) what  shows in March?

RI Saltwater Expo and NJ Saltwater Expo.

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31 mins ago, klunkers said:

 

Was looking forward to  seeing the 8' at surfday.

You can see the 8' prototype Black Hole Suzuki Light rod at the show.

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On 10/31/2018 at 10:35 PM, scoobydoo said:

are they 50/50 or like your cape cod?

Butt over tip?

I'm curious in general.  How has your butt over tip joint faired in terms of reliability?    Not doubting just curious.

I’d like to hear about this I’m looking at the 13 heavy blank

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6 hours ago, jkorgood said:

What will the price point of the 10'6 3/4-4 oz rod be?

We don't know yet. We might introduce economic version first.

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On ‎11‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 11:35 AM, scoobydoo said:

are they 50/50 or like your cape cod?

Butt over tip?

I'm curious in general.  How has your butt over tip joint faired in terms of reliability?    Not doubting just curious.

It is 3 : 7 - 4 : 6 split. I asked to make 5 : 5 rods, but they are not comfortable to make 5 : 5 for the thin diameter blank.

 

The prototype rods has pull over top like  most American two - piece rods.

But I am convinced that the joint which top part goes into butt section is the way to go. Pull over joint tends to have heavier top part which is unbalanced.

And it come off easily. 

I am thinking we introduce pullover point for economic version rods and we introduce butt over tip joint for high end rods.

 

joint of 10'5" prototype Black Hole USA surf rod

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Ah, I see  ....  I trust your engineering expertise, and that of Black Hole, though I've never handled a butt - into - tip rod. When they show up at a Long Island demonstration, I'll be there to try one. 

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1 min ago, BrianBM said:

No my curiousity is itching.  What is the advantage of a tip-into-butt design, as opposed to a tip-over-butt design? 

The major advantage of tip-into butt design is the balanced rod. It tends tip section become heavy when you use tip-over butt.

The other advantage is the joint is much more secured.

Tip-over-butt tends to come off or twist easily.

They say the tip-into-butt is stronger and cast farther.

All high end Japanese and Korean popping rods have tip-into butt as they firmly believe above.

In fact, there is no disadvantage of the tip-into-butt compared with the tip-over butt. But American anglers used to use the rods for long. 

 

 

 

 

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