foxfai Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) Recently a friend bought an inflatable boat and looking to go out togging at some known spots. Looking at the 10 day forecast, every single day the wind is over 10+ mph up to 25+. What the hell? I know fall is bad, not THIS bad. Not to mention whatever rolled through last night, I thought I was going to lose power. Edited October 17, 2018 by foxfai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabnh Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 not looking good at all for the near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdowning Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Its put the hurtin' on some of my fishing plans this wk. Pfantum Pfishah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalmonAndStriper Stalker Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Supposed to be trout trolling on Saturday but I dont think that will even happen. Too windy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rst3 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Fall is windy for a certain reason: the jet stream is back overhead. The JS weakens and gets shunted to the far north in summer, because maximum daylight hours reduce the temperature difference between the pole and equator. Ridges of high pressure can move in and push it farther north, which equals fair mild weather and calm winds. 'Trofs' of unstable air and energy are less common in summer. Now with the pole back in endless night, the cold builds fast and punches south. The jet stream speeds up and follows south, typically on the border between very cold and temperate. Beneath the jet stream, and the weather systems that ride along it, windiness is common. But perhaps the biggest reason for wind is the change in pressure, rising fast or falling fast. Sharp fall cold fronts spike the pressure up right behind them: windy and cold. Low pressure storms that ride the jetstream: pressure drops fast, more wind. Right before a strong cold front, warm wind howls from SSW because the pressure is tumbling before the front blacklabnh 1 Fishing kills me exactly as it keeps me alive. Hemingway, Old Man and the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfai Posted October 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Thank you again @rst3. Learn a lot from your posts. now guide us to some windless spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy monday Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 I tried to go out with my 8 weight fly rod yesterday, not the brightest move I ever made. I got a few casts off but quickly realized it was a fool's errand. Maybe it will drop a little later in the week. I'm OK up to about 15 but over that it's just not fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rst3 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 48 mins ago, foxfai said: now guide us to some windless spots. Here's a few tips that may help understand the what and why of wind in fall, and how you can pick your brief windless windows best Original Buzzards Bay wind vs Atmos Pressure plot.. and one with my annotations 1) Purple circles: shows windspeed lowest on consecutive days near sunrise and very early morning(12GMT = 8am EST now... 7am after clocks go back in fall). Often in fall, once the sun is up and starts heating the surface, wind picks up as surface-warmed air rises into the cold fall air up at altitude. Tip: dawn is often(but obv not always) best for calmest air. If you're not there for sunrise you may miss your brief window. 2) Magenta Box: the hourly green dots that form a pressure trace are very close together. Pressure is not changing much. So windspeed drops low. 3) Orange Box: hourly green dots much more spaced out. Pressure changing rapidly. In this case, it's the warm SSW side just before a strong cold front, so pressure plunging. Notice the wind comes up sharply in perfect inverse of pressure change. 4) Blue Box: strong Cold front blasts through and pressure continues to change rapidly (gap between hrly dots). This time pressure spikes up behind cold front. Strong wind continues. Bottom line: weather you're looking for to fish calmest conditions in fall is when the center of a high pressure cell is directly overhead. In this case the pressure doesn't change much hour-to-hour. These days often have clear Canadian blue type skies. And dawn will often be calmest, with a little more wind as noon approaches blacklabnh 1 Fishing kills me exactly as it keeps me alive. Hemingway, Old Man and the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-man Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, foxfai said: Thank you again @rst3. Learn a lot from your posts. now guide us to some windless spots. The wind is out of the north or west most days in the fall so pick a spot where you can anchor up close to the shoreline to block the wind and you should be good. There won’t be as big of waves as a windy summer day with winds out of the south. Tog should be shallow now so you don’t have to travel much. rst3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Makes taking the boat out of the water not so enjoyable on top of the air temperature in the 40's and 50's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rst3 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, z-man said: The wind is out of the north or west most days in the fall so pick a spot where you can anchor up close to the shoreline to block the wind and you should be good. There won’t be as big of waves as a windy summer day with winds out of the south. Tog should be shallow now so you don’t have to travel much. This.^ Was going to add something similar but couldn't explain it as well as you just did. Esp wrt tog right now. Fishing kills me exactly as it keeps me alive. Hemingway, Old Man and the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robc22 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Ah.......Fishing windy days ain't so bad.......Puts a lil colour on your cheeks......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rst3 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 In more windy city fishing news... GALE WARNING Fishing kills me exactly as it keeps me alive. Hemingway, Old Man and the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rst3 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) In layman's terms... that was a "Big Boy" cold front that just swept through. Winds will be howling as pressure skyrockets, starting sometime after midnight through coffee break tomorrow 5am: 8am Edited October 18, 2018 by rst3 Fishing kills me exactly as it keeps me alive. Hemingway, Old Man and the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rst3 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) Windy City Fun Fact: "gale force" winds meet the same force designation as "tropical storm" force winds. Prepare accordingly. More galey stuff Edit: the seastate wave numbers assume unlimited fetch and maximum seastate development. Obviously a gale 300 feet from shore will have waves about 2 feet high. 300miles from shore? See above^ Edited October 18, 2018 by rst3 Blow jawb Fishing kills me exactly as it keeps me alive. Hemingway, Old Man and the Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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