r111 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 With this bracing example, each and every reel on kayak will be drenched by sand-infused salt water, requiring complete disassemble and clean up in order to save it. Whether or not you manage to stay upright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbjpb Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 I put my reels below deck before launching or landing. Rods are laid down flat on deck. Not sure if you could side surf or brace in a PA? I don't think it has much secondary stability. You do how ever have a good amount of below deck storage. It is always a good idea to prepare for the worst when launching and landing by protecting your gear. Thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gellfex Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 My 2 observations on the video, the dude had no idea how to brace, and WTF was he doing out there in a floating bathtub? That boat looked like 8' long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffz1 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, dbjpb said: Launching can be tough too. Was for that dude. Not much thought went into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick67 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 5 hours ago, dbjpb said: He should have waited 5 minutes until there was no waves at all like when he climbed back on in glassy conditions. KFA-NY Kayak Wars/Team Fishing Lab Yellow Eyed Devils (*member formerly known as ''rick smithtown) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r111 Posted October 16, 2018 Report Share Posted October 16, 2018 That tub got swamped with 20 gallons of water -> total loss of control. I launch with MD drive stowed away, meaning the MD opening is wide open, so that water can drain ASAP. Once, wasnt thinking straight and plugged the MD opening with MD plug during launch and same exact thing happened to me. Still worth it to carry the plug with you, in case you need to paddle any distance should MD fails. But, unplug that opening in surf ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbjpb Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 another failed attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbjpb Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ec5g5L5oxw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gellfex Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 45 mins ago, dbjpb said: another failed attempt Wow, he did so much wrong. Just as the fast forward ended, for some reason he threw his boat sideways with some left back braces. Why? Accidental? Then instead of sweeping with his left to get straight he was trying to rudder on his right instead, which just killed his momentum and steerage way. When the wave hit, he leaned away from it instead of into it with a brace, and he was done. My take is he was a typical pedaler with no paddle skills. No instincts on how to control his boat in those conditions. And his paddle was backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r111 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) For some reason, PAs are insanely popular on left coast, esp in La Jolla. May be they "Rotomold them while U wait ", right on the beach ? Edited October 17, 2018 by r111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gellfex Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 I was thinking about what I posted while working, and realized probably even an experienced flatwater paddler doesn't really have the kind of skills for surf. It's not just forward strokes! Other than actually practicing in rough conditions like rapids or surf, the best way I know to gain more control with a paddle was a kayak polo game we used to play with students. It was more or less ultimate frisbee with a pool kickboard, but running with the "ball" was allowed till you were tagged, then you had to throw. This forced our kayak students to learn things like spinning their boat fast when the board changed hands, back paddling, hard acceleration to run or catch a runner, and other tight maneuvering in the excitement of a game. A 45 minute game was exhausting, then we'd go out drinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishinjohny Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 A lesson by a certified instructor and practice in the surf would be the most logical solution to acquire the skills needed for a safe surf launch or landing. I have had a lot of fun playing in the surf over the years .Once I gain the skills I also gained confidence. I have found that there is more than just the paddle to consider when dealing with the surf. How the waves are breaking, counting the sets, the frequency of the waves, wind, tide, beach steepness, changing conditions now and when I land, deciding if you should dismount or stay in your boat, should I launch or not, come to mind. Time in the surf zone sharpens your skills and gives the practical experience to make safe choices. Time on the water in varying conditions is the best way I know to facilitate skills, watching videos may be a help but is no substitute. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishinjohny Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 I thought of one more very important thing if you don't have thigh straps in your boat install them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gellfex Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Fishinjohny said: I thought of one more very important thing if you don't have thigh straps in your boat install them. You should explain why, most of the readers who have even heard of thigh straps probably think they're for keeping you from falling out of the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbjpb Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) When bracing side ways in a wave the straps prevent you from getting pulled out of the kayak by the wave. If it was a sit inside kayak you would brace with your thigh/knees against the inside of the cockpit. With a sit on top kayak the thigh straps replace the inside of the cockpit as something you can maneuver the kayak with your legs. This allows you to hold your kayak on edge and prevents you from falling out. I have never seem someone use them locally when fishing besides me. Many people fear they will be trapped in the kayak with them. This is not the case. If you push your knees together you will pop out of the straps. Good luck in the surf zone and dress for immersion. Edited October 22, 2018 by dbjpb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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