Angler #1 Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 Todays CCT editorial has a very interesting article on what is going on in the department and why the lack of personal enforcing the laws. It seems that the Leadership is run by some one that has no environmental enforcement education as such . It is also noted that they are allowed to do split shifts , doing paid over time jobs in between. It is noted that almost half of the officers are now making overĀ $100,000 a year out of 83 officers where the annual salary is $80,000. It points out that changes need to be made at the leadership positions at the top . It also tout this as a reason why we do not see as much law officers out in the field , If some could put this up every one can get a better idea and for me understand why we do not see the boots on the ground enforcement we need to have in order to protect the resources they enforce. Life member M.B.B.A #509 Life member Izaak Walton Fishing Association Life member Cape Cod Canal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robc22 Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 Our state LE agencies are a real mess........So much corruption............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybosox3 Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 Nothing new there! Missing Wilmington Vermont but loving the Ditch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ged Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 FYI - Most CEOās canāt complete the technical/mechanical/operational assignment their people can. The ābossā is responsible for setting expectations and holding people accountable for their performance, for inspiring and engaging their employees.Ā Ā I would never work for an organization that didnāt have accountability as a core part ofĀ itās culture.Ā Ā Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Monkey Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 I dont see the issue with the salary. People love to point out how LEO's make "too much". They earn it. A few bad apples in a department makes everybodyĀ think that cops dont do anything. (*member formerly known as ''duntonsdragons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ged Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 I wonder what the cost of the education is to qualify for being an EPO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Monkey Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 Bachelors in biology or related field. Most are veterans, as disabled vets and vets go to the top of the civil service list regardless of test score. (*member formerly known as ''duntonsdragons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambellies Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 I'm not surprised that the top leadership has noĀ environmental enforcement education. Ā It's notĀ just a state problem, just look at the current Fed administration & cabinet. Ā AsĀ to the high salary, I've got no problems with that. Ā They earn it. Ā Imagine having to go into the woods to arrest a law breaking hunter who has a gun. Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmytuna Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 31 mins ago, Fish Monkey said: I dont see the issue with the salary. People love to point out how LEO's make "too much". They earn it. A few bad apples in a department makes everybodyĀ think that cops dont do anything. No offence but you think paying someone 100k a year to measure fish and write tickets is reasonable? I understand they are a needed for the protection of our fishery but how about paying them 50k and hire 2 for the price of one. I don't mean to disrespect but it annoys me when I'm fishing out on my kayak and I see an EPOĀ on the shore sitting in his air conditioned truck for hours while collecting my hard earned money. I know that there are good apples amongst the bad but 100kĀ is ridiculous!Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plug and teaser Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 5 mins ago, Timmytuna said: No offence but you think paying someone 100k a year to measure fish and write tickets is reasonable? I understand they are a needed for the protection of our fishery but how about paying them 50k and hire 2 for the price of one. I don't mean to disrespect but it annoys me when I'm fishing out on my kayak and I see an EPOĀ on the shore sitting in his air conditioned truck for hours while collecting my hard earned money. I know that there are good apples amongst the bad but 100kĀ is ridiculous!Ā In fairness, this is just a tiny part of what they do. Ā Important to us , but just a small part of their duties. Edited September 2, 2018 by Plug and teaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Monkey Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 17 mins ago, Timmytuna said: No offence but you think paying someone 100k a year to measure fish and write tickets is reasonable? I understand they are a needed for the protection of our fishery but how about paying them 50k and hire 2 for the price of one. I don't mean to disrespect but it annoys me when I'm fishing out on my kayak and I see an EPOĀ on the shore sitting in his air conditioned truck for hours while collecting my hard earned money. I know that there are good apples amongst the bad but 100kĀ is ridiculous!Ā Just think how many EPO's we could have if we paid them minimum wage... (*member formerly known as ''duntonsdragons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Angler #1 said: ā¦. If some could put this up every one can get a better idea and for me understand why we do not see the boots on the ground enforcement we need to have in order to protect the resources they enforce. Ā Because it is not a priority with our Governor.Ā Ā The patron-laden office in charge of the MA environment and parks has nearly a dozen of Charlie Baker's loyalists.Ā Ā Perhaps Colonel McGinn, a retired SPĀ sergeant and lawyer, who served as Baker's personal campaign driver before Baker appointed him to run the agency in 2014,Ā can make a difference.Ā However,Ā the recent problems at the Canal tell me otherwise.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak-striper Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 32 mins ago, Fish Monkey said: Just think how many EPO's we could have if we paid them minimum wage... <sarcasm> Or have them work for tips, like wait staff. </sarcasm> Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Monkey Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 9 mins ago, zak-striper said: <sarcasm> Or have them work for tips, like wait staff. </sarcasm> Ā If they really cared about the environment, they would work for free and refuse tips. (*member formerly known as ''duntonsdragons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave588 Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Fish Monkey said: Bachelors in biology or related field. Most are veterans, as disabled vets and vets go to the top of the civil service list regardless of test score. Not in mass. If thereĀ are any veterans, it wouldĀ be state guard with a deployment waiver not real active duty veterans. I would like to see the actual statistics on that and nepotism. i dont have a problem with a living salary but all law enforcement should have a 40 hour work week and ot details should be limited to a safe number of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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