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10 mins ago, JoeyZac said:

"Completely Unhinged?"  Come on man.  I'm sitting here at a computer expressing an opinion while watching tv and having a cup of coffee.  I'm not out in the street wailing at the sky while wearing a pink vagina hat.  The Left has a lock on that kind of behavior.

Yes. Unhinged. If you think this movie is rewriting history because they didn't include a scene, you are completely unhinged. Couple it with all the kooky posts you've made on this forum and the mosaic is even clearer.

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1 hour ago, tomkaz said:

Observations from one writer at HotAir:

 

Was the moon landing a “human achievement” more so than an American achievement?

 

Yes and no.

 

No in the sense that it was famously the result of a hyper-nationalist space race between the world’s two superpowers. Would America have gone to the moon eventually? Sure. Would America have scrambled to get to the moon in 1969 if not for the massive psychological national-greatness payoff in beating the Soviets to the punch? Nah, probably not. If you want to be more meta about the question, would America have ever been in the position, scientifically and economically, to pull off a moon shot if it hadn’t been America? Again, nopers.

 

But yes, of course it was a “human achievement” as well, one that requires no sense of national pride to appreciate. “One giant leap for mankind,” right? It was the moment Earth could no longer contain human ingenuity; even 50 years on, the spectacle is wondrous. No one would disagree. What’s strange, then, about that as a rationale for omitting the flag-planting from the movie is that it assumes audiences might fail to appreciate the “human achievement” if the moment was depicted as it actually happened. This startling chapter in human advancement, recognized as such universally and universally known to have been accomplished by the United States, would supposedly lose its appeal among moviegoers if it was … faithfully re-created.

HotAir, perfect magazine for the last paragraph 

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1 hour ago, The Dude said:

Looks to be American production companies like Amblin, Dreamworks and Universal pictures. It's safe to say that a number of American companies stand to make money off the picture. 

 

Nevertheless, this attack on American company profits because of an artistic/marketing decision should be concerning to all Americans. 

Is your tongue jutting out through a hole in your cheek? 

“No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.”

- Victor Davis Hanson 

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Just now, The Dude said:

Can one of you Trump Loyalists explain why the flag planting is critical to the story? 

 

You could argue that it was kind of the point in going there in the first place

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. – William James

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1 min ago, tomkaz said:

Is your tongue jutting out through a hole in your cheek? 

No. I think the President calling for the boycott of an American made movie over the omission of a scene is completely antithetical to the office and the principles of this country. It's really effed up.

 

 

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2 mins ago, The Dude said:

No. I think the President calling for the boycott of an American made movie over the omission of a scene is completely antithetical to the office and the principles of this country. It's really effed up.

 

 

 

You're funny 

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. – William James

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3 mins ago, The Dude said:

Can one of you Trump Loyalists explain why the flag planting is critical to the story? 

Uh, let’s see. Oh yeah, because we kicked the Soviets ass with our space program. Because it was American engineers who Designed the craft in the equipment, American companies that made it, American astronaut who tested it, with some lives lost, and it was Americans who landed up there.

 

My father worked on the navigation gyros that are in the lunar module, working for an American company.

 

My wife’s uncle worked for a company that did a variety of other things and his name is actually on the moon, laser etched on the flag pole. 

 

 And as you likely know, technology that went into all the Apollo projects ended up in other military as well as commercial aircraft another systems.

 

Oh, and the entire thing was paid for by US taxpayers. 

 

So the planting of the flag there has significance for all Americans. Just as planting the various countries’ flags at the north and south pole had significance back in the day.  Or on the top of various mountains. It was commemoration of conquering of a new place. Making a claim that WE got here first. 

 

Are you seriously arguing against that? 

“No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.”

- Victor Davis Hanson 

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6 mins ago, The Dude said:

Can one of you Trump Loyalists explain why the flag planting is critical to the story? Especially to the point where the President is calling for the boycott of an American product? 

For the simple fact that The United States of America is the only Country to ever accomplish the feat. You should be proud of that! However, you don’t seem to be. 

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8 mins ago, The Dude said:

Yes. Unhinged. If you think this movie is rewriting history because they didn't include a scene, you are completely unhinged. Couple it with all the kooky posts you've made on this forum and the mosaic is even clearer.

 

I don't think the word "unhinged" means what you think it does.

 

For that matter, I'm not so sure you're clear on the meaning of the word "completely" either.

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9 mins ago, The Dude said:

Yes. Unhinged. If you think this movie is rewriting history because they didn't include a scene, you are completely unhinged. Couple it with all the kooky posts you've made on this forum and the mosaic is even clearer.

 Gee, the rewriting of history?

 

What is it that was said in that movie with numbers in the title? “He who controls the past controls the future, he who controls the present controls the past.”

 

 

“No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.”

- Victor Davis Hanson 

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Just now, Markushook said:

For the simple fact that The United States of America is the only Country to ever accomplish the feat. You should be proud of that! However, you don’t seem to be. 

No, Dude thinks it jingoistic to have pride over such an event. 

“No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.”

- Victor Davis Hanson 

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11 mins ago, Markushook said:

HotAir, perfect magazine for the last paragraph 

 I think the guy was trying to be as fair and balanced as possible.

 

But his last sentence does raise a question: do they lose more American ticket sales because of the lack of a flag, or do they gain more in foreign audiences for omitting the flag? 

“No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.”

- Victor Davis Hanson 

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3 mins ago, Markushook said:

For the simple fact that The United States of America is the only Country to ever accomplish the feat. You should be proud of that! However, you don’t seem to be. 

 

5 mins ago, tomkaz said:

Uh, let’s see. Oh yeah, because we kicked the Soviets ass with our space program. Because it was American engineers who Designed the craft in the equipment, American companies that made it, American astronaut who tested it, with some lives lost, and it was Americans who landed up there.

 

My father worked on the navigation gyros that are in the lunar module, working for an American company.

 

My wife’s uncle worked for a company that did a variety of other things and his name is actually on the moon, laser etched on the flag pole. 

 

 And as you likely know, technology that went into all the Apollo projects ended up in other military as well as commercial aircraft another systems.

 

Oh, and the entire thing was paid for by US taxpayers. 

 

So the planting of the flag there has significance for all Americans. Just as planting the various countries’ flags at the north and south pole had significance back in the day.  Or on the top of various mountains. It was commemoration of conquering of a new place. Making a claim that WE got here first. 

 

Are you seriously arguing against that? 

I think the audience will know all of that even though they don't show the flag planting.

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