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21 Reasons for the Decline of Harley Davidson

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Why Harley Davidson Sales Are Down

Harley Davidson is closing many of its plants due to declining sales. Apparently, the Baby-Boomers all have motorcycles and Generation X is only buying a very few. The next generation, the Millennials, aren’t buying any at all. A recent study was conducted to find out why. Here are a few reasons why Millennials don't ride motorcycles and why sales are probably down:

1. Pants won't pull up far enough for them to straddle the seat.

2. Can't get their phone to their ear with a helmet on.

3. Can't use two hands to eat while driving.

4. Don't get a trophy and a recognition plaque just for buying one.

5. Don't have enough muscle to hold the bike up when stopped.

6. Might have a bug hit them in the face and then they would need emergency care.

7. Motorcycles don't have air conditioning.

8. Can't afford one because they spent 12 years in college trying to get a degree in Humanities, Social Studies or Gender Studies, for which no jobs are available.

9. Allergic to fresh air.

10. Pajamas get caught on the exhaust pipes.

11. Might get their hands dirty checking the oil.

12. Handle bars have buttons and levers and cannot be controlled by touch-screen.

13. Have to shift manually and use something called a clutch.

14. Too hard to take selfies while riding.

15. They don't come with training wheels like their bicycles did.

16. Motorcycles don't have power steering or power brakes.

17. Nose ring interferes with the face shield.

18. Would have to use leg muscle to backup.

19. When they stop, a light breeze might blow exhaust in their face.

20. It could rain on them and expose them to non-soft water.

21. It might scare their therapy dog and then the dog would need therapy.

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You are buying a legacy not a quality motorcycle guaranteed to give you years of trouble free service.  That's the problem with Harley.  Every time I went to get a bike I went to look at Harley's and ended up with something else.  

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7 hours ago, 7 Rivers said:

Junk, and will nickel and dime you to death...

 

6 hours ago, aae0130 said:

They are not the bikes of old. Just expensive junk for the status chasers.

 

1 hour ago, ScottO said:

You are buying a legacy not a quality motorcycle guaranteed to give you years of trouble free service.  That's the problem with Harley.  Every time I went to get a bike I went to look at Harley's and ended up with something else.  

Just out of curiosity, have you guys actually owned a Harley? I would like to know what the nickle and dime stuff was that killed it for you. Why you think they are expensive junk. Why you feel they are not a quality motorcycle guaranteed to give you years of trouble free service.

Quite honestly, if I were shopping today, I probably wouldn't buy a Harley. But not for the reasons stated. Mostly because my tastes have changed in what I would be looking for in a bike. There are some fine offerings from other companies lately.

But that said, I have owned many motorcycles in my life of all styles and makes. Both street and off road. I ice raced bikes for several years in my younger days. Over my lifetime, I have owned 7 Harleys. Not one of them has "nickle and dimed" me to death. Yes I sunk more money into some than I should have customizing them. Not one was ever junk. I got many years of trouble free years of service out of them. In fact, my current Harley I bought new in 1998. 20 years of trouble fee riding with 34k miles on it. It still rides, looks and performs like new. 

I'm not asking these questions for arguments. I sincerely would like to hear first hand experience of why they're so bad because my experience has been just the opposite.

My 98 Softail Custom.

 

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I ended up with Honda VTX's, 1800cc's because I wanted a big bike, I wanted a shaft drive, I wanted long term reliability.  My wing had 83,xxx miles when I sold it for 4500 bucks.  I always went to look at the Harley's but just could not pull the trigger on one.  S

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25 mins ago, ScottO said:

I ended up with Honda VTX's, 1800cc's because I wanted a big bike, I wanted a shaft drive, I wanted long term reliability.  My wing had 83,xxx miles when I sold it for 4500 bucks.  I always went to look at the Harley's but just could not pull the trigger on one.  S

That's cool. Everyone has different preferences. To be fair though, you cannot rightfully claim that a Harley will not give an owner years of guaranteed trouble free service. Correct?

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Harley is in big trouble. They're coming out with some real ugly **** out of desperation. I could fix em overnight. Build an inline 4 that's competitive. You can still build obsolete twins that shake like paint mixers for 40 grand. But build bikes people actually want too. Bikes that run. And arent slow.

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10 mins ago, fishinambition said:

Harley is in big trouble. They're coming out with some real ugly **** out of desperation. I could fix em overnight. Build an inline 4 that's competitive. You can still build obsolete twins that shake like paint mixers for 40 grand. But build bikes people actually want too. Bikes that run. And arent slow.

you couldn't build a house out of lincoln logs you couch lounging fatbody. 

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I will say that the couple of guys I rode with, one had relatively low issues but one had a non stop issue's.  Constantly having the bike worked on and I have no idea if he was wrenching poorly on it or it was just an ugly build.  Neither were newer bikes.  You cannot put all the Harley's in there but in general I felt the Japanese bikes were a better bang for the dollar all around.  But hey, as long as you are riding life is good!!! 

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There's no comparison to japanese bikes. They get it. They sell bikes for everyone. HD, like most other American auto manufacturers have milked our patriotism for every ounce and have been coasting, selling inferior overpriced trash. That **** dont fly when there are cheaper better options. I hope they go belly up.

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16 mins ago, fishinambition said:

There's no comparison to japanese bikes. They get it. They sell bikes for everyone. HD, like most other American auto manufacturers have milked our patriotism for every ounce and have been coasting, selling inferior overpriced trash. That **** dont fly when there are cheaper better options. I hope they go belly up.

You really are a moron. Even when you troll you're a moron. 

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