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Florida Gov Race Just Became a Bellwether on Trumpism vs Progressivism

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Who would have thought that the Florida governor's race in November could be a bellwether race of Trumpism vs Progressivism?

 

How mich money will be spent on this race alone?

 

Will all the attention and GOTV efforts accrue benefits to other GOP or Dem candidates on the FL ballots? 

 

I wonder who I might vote for? 

 

The NYTimes reports:

 

Florida Democrats nominated Andrew Gillum, the Tallahassee mayor, and Republicans tapped Representative Ron DeSantis for governor Tuesday, setting the stage for a ferocious general election in the country’s largest swing state between one of President Trump’s most unabashed allies and an outspoken progressive who would be Florida’s first black governor.”

 

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21 mins ago, PlumFishing said:

You are an unabashed Gillum supporter. You and I both know it. 

Candidly, I barely knew his name until I saw a lawn placard with photo on the road today. Learned in that moment that he was a man of color. 

 

Frankly, I was hoping Jeff Greene would win, making the gov race about gun control. 

 

At some point early this year, I suggested that the establishment Dems had a problem on their Left flank. That if the far-Left decided to break from the party bosses, the mainstream Dems could face two challenges: 

 

1) Far Left and Progressive candidates would push more centrist candidates to the left during primary races in order to win. That might force them to say things and justify positions that would need to be walked back during the general election. 

 

2) Should the far left candidates actually win, they could diminish the chances of the Dems to win the general election. 

 

Of the two, I was less right on the second as most of the far left progressives have not won their primaries.

 

That said, Gillum is the proof to my theory. Not only did he beat the anti-gun Greene, he beat former Rep. Gwen Graham, the centrist favorite and establishment choice. 

 

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I have no idea who any of them are. 

Wonder if there are enough minority votes (Cubans being the obvious exception) to make a go of it. 

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29 mins ago, PlumFishing said:

I have no idea who any of them are. 

Wonder if there are enough minority votes (Cubans being the obvious exception) to make a go of it. 

Correct Plum, the Cubans ARE an exception.

 

From Pew Research, Nov 15, 2016: 

 

Unlike other Latinos, about half of Cuban voters in Florida backed Trump

By Jens Manuel Krogstad and Antonio Flores

In Florida, Cubans were about twice as likely as non-Cuban Latinos to vote for Donald Trump. More than half (54%) supported the Republican president-elect, compared with about a quarter (26%) of non-Cuban Latinos, according to National Election Pool exit poll data.

 

A significant share of Cubans in Florida voted for Hillary Clinton – 41% – but this was far below the 71% of non-Cuban Latinos who backed the Democratic nominee. At the same time, the level of support for Trump among Cubans was similar to that of non-Latinos in the state (51%).

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BTW, of course, if the first poll that comes out shows Gillum behind, the complaints about racism won’t be too far behind. 

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What stereotyping? The numbers you posted show Cubans vote Republican by and large. That is not a ground breaking statement. 

It’s actually quite well known. 

Not sure what you are calling me out on. 

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Just now, PlumFishing said:

What stereotyping? The numbers you posted show Cubans vote Republican by and large. That is not a ground breaking statement. 

It’s actually quite well known. 

Not sure what you are calling me out on. 

Sorry, my eyes are squinting and  I missed "exception". I apologize and will correct. 

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2 mins ago, tomkaz said:

BTW, of course, if the first poll that comes out shows Gillum behind, the complaints about racism won’t be too far behind. 

 Gillum is riding the Socialist Horse in this race. De Santis should leave him in the dust.

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I’m thinking the hype of having our first black governor will not be as effective as they would like. Obama taught them a lesson about that.

 

Still it will be close up until our real journalists discover the Republican didn’t return a library book back in 1847.

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